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Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#5526: Jun 4th 2016 at 2:11:03 AM

Ninja is better. You may have to add the job to everybody for it to work, but you can get a guarantee BP refund for each hit, as opposed to Rampart, which will drain BP like a leaky faucet.

edited 4th Jun '16 3:21:47 AM by Ekimmak

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#5527: Jun 4th 2016 at 4:26:24 AM

But if you give your Templar Restore BP, and have your Salve-maker use elemental weakness mixes on the Templar each turn that Rampart needs to go back up, everyone else can use whatever job you want.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#5528: Jun 4th 2016 at 4:37:42 AM

Artemia isn't annoying. She's the cutest. sad

Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#5529: Jun 4th 2016 at 5:22:29 AM

So, dedicate two people to a single defensive wall for an entire battle, or assign everybody ninjitsu side class and sacrifice the first turn.

It's really down to preference. There are times where I like to use Rampart, but when trying to beat bosses that are much stronger than me, I'd rather have the Ninja's speed to have the best chance of getting the shield. And then there's that I have to constantly squander several BP to refresh a single shield, versus the Ninjitsu Dodge costing 1 BP to refresh.

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#5530: Jun 4th 2016 at 6:53:26 AM

Of course, that means giving everyone Ninjutsu, which makes a fair number of builds impossible. It comes down to what you want to do, I suppose.

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Zennistrad from The Multiverse Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#5531: Jun 4th 2016 at 12:38:33 PM

I managed to breeze through most of Bravely Default with a Salvemaker and a shitload of Beast Livers and Dragon's Fangs. Doubling maximum HP turns even the most frail classes into absurdly resilient tanks.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#5532: Jun 4th 2016 at 1:23:33 PM

Stillness is life.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#5533: Jun 4th 2016 at 3:22:33 PM

Screw the Bloodrose Legion. If I ignore all the optional chapter 8 bosses, can I still go back to them later?

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#5534: Jun 4th 2016 at 3:23:51 PM

[up][up] Calm is nowhere near as strong, but it's still an integral part of my BS strategy.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#5535: Jun 4th 2016 at 4:32:28 PM

[up][up]Try fighting the Black Blades. evil grin

MJTrooper Since: Apr, 2011
#5536: Jun 4th 2016 at 8:39:01 PM

Bravely Second sure has an unfortunate acronym.

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Yubi yubi!
#5537: Jun 4th 2016 at 8:43:04 PM

nah, thats bullshit

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#5538: Jun 7th 2016 at 10:38:43 AM

Well, it was certainly fun punching the Evil One's face in. Been wanting to do that for a long time.

edited 7th Jun '16 10:49:33 AM by Sterok

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#5539: Jun 7th 2016 at 10:55:31 AM

Been a while since I've wanted to kill a villain that much.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#5540: Jun 7th 2016 at 2:42:51 PM

Well, beat Bravely Default. Battle and Job systems were fun, that's for sure. Story was meh, then really stupid. Not sure why they kept going along with Airy long after they knew she was evil. Lategame padding was irritating enough for me to just want the game to end though. Overall, good game. Not sure if I'll want to get Second though.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#5541: Jun 7th 2016 at 3:08:26 PM

The "thematic" explanation everyone always gives is that they had to Default 4 times before they could Brave, but narratively it was just pure stupid. Unless you rewrite the story to come up with your own personal excuse for it, as some have.

Second is much better paced.

edited 7th Jun '16 3:09:05 PM by Clarste

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#5542: Jun 7th 2016 at 5:46:21 PM

That same thematic reasoning would still work if the Evil One revealed themselves in Chapter 5.

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#5543: Jun 7th 2016 at 6:33:29 PM

I go with the idea that as long as new universes kept appearing, they had to complete their journey no matter what- that as long as worlds needed them they'd be there.

and that the story (the latter half anyway) was about their determination to help anyone that needed them.

granted, the last four chapters still recycle dialogue like crazy and don't get their point across very well, but still.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#5544: Jun 7th 2016 at 6:40:33 PM

What gets me is that they never use their knowledge of previous events except in the cases of Kikyo and Praline, and that drives me nuts. They could avoid so much conflict but choose not to... just because. They could even include the boss fights like Second does and than resolve things peacefully after the fact.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#5545: Jun 7th 2016 at 7:57:23 PM

Yeah, Second was so much better about that. Hell, even the first time through, they were already getting Genre Savvy about it. "Pick whoever you want, but just remember we're probably gonna have to fight the other one."

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#5546: Jun 8th 2016 at 9:59:00 AM

It's a big ol' plot hole.

Which makes it hilarious that Second casually does things with the story that could've made default not have a big plot hole. Oh well.

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Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#5547: Jun 8th 2016 at 2:43:01 PM

Frankly, I don't care how much the game improved by tearing out the plot holes, I've had zero interest in bravely second since they announced that they'd be making mutually exclusive job asterisks.

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MJTrooper Since: Apr, 2011
#5548: Jun 8th 2016 at 2:54:55 PM

[up]All I can say is, it is possible to get all of the asterisks in a single playthrough.

edited 8th Jun '16 2:55:12 PM by MJTrooper

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#5549: Jun 8th 2016 at 10:55:50 PM

Yeah.

And I didn't even get them all , and still have a team I consider near perfect.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#5550: Jun 8th 2016 at 11:37:28 PM

They've also nerfed a lot of the older asterisks, particularly the magic using ones, to be much less versatile than they were, so it's not a huge loss not to have them. White and Black Magick aren't all that great when you have an extremely versatile magic class from the word go and a decent healer not much after that.


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