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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#3426: Feb 9th 2015 at 1:15:56 PM

Yep, errybody dies horribly. SPOILERED FOREVAR.

HanabiraKage Since: Oct, 2011
#3427: Feb 9th 2015 at 8:37:06 PM

"End Layer" sounds familiar though. Was that a place or something mentioned in the first game?

Kiefen MINE! from Germany Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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#3428: Feb 9th 2015 at 11:15:25 PM

It could refer to the last of the parallel wolds.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#3429: Feb 9th 2015 at 11:17:35 PM

Or the bonus dungeon.

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TwilightFalchion Since: Oct, 2010
#3430: Feb 10th 2015 at 2:53:11 AM

Had a really bad yet awesome sounding idea about the subtitle.

What if it was Befri END pLAYER and the climax turns into a fourth wall smashing battle that you can somehow take part in....

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#3431: Feb 10th 2015 at 3:22:05 AM

How dull. Player should be the villain, if anything.

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#3432: Feb 10th 2015 at 9:19:03 AM

The subtitle might change for the English release, too.

And I do hope that they did something clever with the subtitle like they did with Flying Fairy/Where the Fairy Flies.

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#3433: Feb 10th 2015 at 9:21:59 AM

Bonus dungeon was called Dimension's Hasp, though.

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CaissasDeathAngel House Lewis: Sanity is Relative from Dumfries, SW Scotland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#3434: Feb 10th 2015 at 11:35:14 AM

Been busy with other things, so only just now hitting Alternis at the end of Chapter 4.

Going to try and cheese this rather than actually dealing with a prolonged battle against Minus Strike (also I don't have my BP engine ready yet, or a Templar, Merchant or Time Mage for their abilities).

Going to start by defaulting for 4 turns, with Agnes using the 4th to Brave once, Healing-Lore boosted Curada the party back to full health and use Lightning Bane. Then, four Bravely Seconds for four level three specials, 50% power and Lightning element. Everyone braves 3 times and uses Thundaga to hopefully finish him off.

Cheap, but will hopefully work if my specials do enough damage. Only issue is, I can't be sure that they will since I'm relying on Bravely Second to breach the cap. He's got 135k health, I think, so I'm really needing to do about 100k between the specials and hope for cap damage with the Thundagas.

EDIT: Thundagas? Didn't need 'em! I had Ringabel use a level 2 special for the Crit Rate boost, but was hit when I saw it only did 6k damage, even with a weakness (I was sure I set it up right...). Didn't know the damage difference between the two was that great! Oh well, Edea did a whopping 76k from her level 3 special, and that was as a level 13 Freelancer with a Blood Blade! Tiz managed 36k and Agnes about 12k. Four of Agnes's regular attacks, only doing about 1k each, were enough to end it.

edited 10th Feb '15 12:06:31 PM by CaissasDeathAngel

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#3435: Feb 10th 2015 at 12:24:08 PM

Recently, I've been in Godspeed Strike spam mode. Obviously impractical for a first playthrough as it requires freelancer maxed and thief pretty high, and is otherwise not super practical without a performer with Hasten World, but with Hermes Sandals and a weapon that triggers vulnerability, you can pretty reliably deal really high damage values without ever having to worry about physical attack or physical defense at all.

CaissasDeathAngel House Lewis: Sanity is Relative from Dumfries, SW Scotland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#3436: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:48:32 PM

Something I've been wondering:

In the airship, you can go to auto-pilot. Many of the autopilot locations have "battle" beside them. What does that mean? I can't understand why it's there, and if there's a way to use it to trigger a battle, I've had no success doing so.

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TwilightFalchion Since: Oct, 2010
#3437: Feb 10th 2015 at 6:14:07 PM

I just realized ...Tiz and Edea might get new Special Attack themes if that is still a thing in this game. Wonder what they'd be if it isn't just the old ones redone by the new composer...?

edited 10th Feb '15 6:14:45 PM by TwilightFalchion

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#3438: Feb 10th 2015 at 8:51:43 PM

"battle" just means the location contains random battles.

Is Godspeed Strike a good fit for dual-welding Falcon Knives?

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#3439: Feb 11th 2015 at 4:19:50 AM

Godspeed Strike + Mimic is an okayish way to deal 9999 damage four times in a row, as long as you have the requisite +2 BP to not go beneath -4. The trick here is not wielding Falcon Knives (though I guess that works), but rather making sure that the weapon you yield triggers weakness.

The Ripper is the easiest way to do this against humanoid enemies.

JotunofBoredom Left Eye from Noatun Since: Dec, 2009
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#3440: Feb 11th 2015 at 9:45:25 AM

Clear magazine screenshots for those who haven't seen them.

Is that how they dress all their patients/test subjects?

edited 11th Feb '15 9:45:55 AM by JotunofBoredom

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#3441: Feb 11th 2015 at 9:51:17 AM

His bed head has evolved into an emover.

Also, well, that ends my "we haven't seen what he looks like now, so maybe he's Emperor Oblivion" hypothesis.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#3442: Feb 15th 2015 at 10:41:05 PM

2.) Edea is with Alternis. Only true in worlds 4 and 5.

Ringabel survived falling off of the ship and even falling into lava, according to D's Journal.

There's no reason to believe the other Alternis...es wouldn't be the same.

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#3443: Feb 16th 2015 at 4:13:10 AM

Those events were between the third and forth crystal. That being said, you have a point; no reason to assume world 1 Alternis would die just because he moved off-screen.

CaissasDeathAngel House Lewis: Sanity is Relative from Dumfries, SW Scotland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#3444: Feb 16th 2015 at 11:08:45 AM

Okay, so I'm in world 2 just now, and know that in chapter 7, the bosses have awesome stealable equipment. For this, I'll want a thief in my team - what is a good way to include one?

Edea is a BP engine, Freelancer/Performer. Agnes is a healer, Salvemaker/White Mage (she can also hit the damage cap with Shadowflare after a Dark Bane, and does 7500 damage even without the Bane if I have Attack Item Amp up). Tiz's role is open at the moment, with Ringabel to be the thief. Any ideas on a secondary/primary, and what Tiz could do? At the moment he's Pirate/Swordmaster using Free Lunch for damage cap free Amped Strikes.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#3445: Feb 16th 2015 at 11:15:33 AM

Maybe Ringabel can be a Ninja/Thief, to take advantage of Ninja's extremely high speed, and dual-wieldng ability. You can then dual-wield Falcon Knives to amp up your speed as much as possible, for extremely strong Godspeed Strikes.

Alternatively, Thief/Merchant gives you some nice secondary abilities. Low Leverage is godly when combined with a BP Engine and Salve-Maker healer.

For Tiz?

Well, you can't go wrong with Dark Knight. I use a Dark Knight/Spiritmaster, myself.

Oh, and if you want to get even more power out of your Salve-Maker, try dipping into Templar, for Item Critical.

edited 16th Feb '15 11:16:07 AM by Enlong

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CaissasDeathAngel House Lewis: Sanity is Relative from Dumfries, SW Scotland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#3446: Feb 16th 2015 at 11:34:34 AM

Thanks very much, some great suggestions there!

Merchant is a good shout actually, I'd been thinking that I could do with Low Leverage; if I can go well beyond the damage cap without it, hopefully I can come close to the cap even with it, while still benefiting from the halved enemy damage. It would also give more reason to add Item Critical to the Salvemaker, which isn't really needed without LL since she's doing 7500 without a weakness at the moment. Healing Lore boosted healing and Resurrect mean two turns for instant full party damage cap healing, which I love about the class. Plus the buffing, of course.

Dark Knight is definitely one I could use for Tiz, perhaps with Vampire or, as you say, Spiritmaster.

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#3447: Feb 16th 2015 at 11:58:40 AM

Also remember that with Low Leverage, Rage shenanigans get even more insane.

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#3448: Feb 16th 2015 at 12:08:57 PM

Even better: items are one of the few things not effected by Low Leverage, as far as I've been able to discern.

edited 16th Feb '15 12:09:42 PM by Enlong

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#3449: Feb 16th 2015 at 12:25:17 PM

[up] Yeah, anything that does a fixed amount of damage or healing isn't affected by Low Leverage (or Full Leverage, but who uses that?)

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#3450: Feb 16th 2015 at 12:30:09 PM

I sometimes like to do Full Leverage, two actions, and then re-apply Low Leverage.

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