Power Rangers as a whole

Half the issues in Forever Red are production problems. It was originally going to be a two-parter and they were going to have multiple megazords return to fight and defeat Serpentera (both of which sound really awesome, but I get the production hassle of making it happen and would only further complicate the continuity problems). The tight budget PR always has forced a lot of things to turn out the way it did, just getting all the Ranger actors back made it very expensive and there was very little stock footage to cull from. Apparently even making the CGI Serpentera required an additional grant from Bandai, who demanded that the episode showcase the flying motorcycle in return.

The other issues are less continuity errors as much as it is just not explained fully, Power Rangers as a whole is rather loose with maintaining continuity, like the need for the Sword in the Power Transfer of season two as power exchanges before or after never needed it. Jason having the Tyrannosaurus powers actually mirrors Adam having the Mastodon powers, the original assumption at the beginning of season three was the powers were destroyed entirely, but with Adam it was shown to be simply damaged and still usable, opening the window for a complete repair. The Machine Empire was supposedly dusted in the Z-Wave, but obviously A LOT of villains survived it unscathed anyway.

As a standalone story it is about the best you can hope for in a crossover, as it gave maximum character interaction and just about everyone got a cool moment to shine.

edited 15th May '18 2:42:20 AM by KJMackley

I just came up with this idea that the reason Zordon offered the Rangers a chance to quit at the end of "Doomsday" was that they had almost reached some time threshold after which the dino-powers became locked to them without the aid of that sword.

I forgot about the Zordon wave. The surviving members were from other dimensions at the time or somewhere else. Think about it; Trakeena came from another dimension. The Mutants weren't born yet in Time Force. The demons were locked away in Lightspeed Rescue. Wild Force is as close to the one time where it should've worked, but only against Jindrax and Toxica at best, as the rest weren't alive just yet, or sealed away. Master Org included. And one could argue it only killed those that were pure evil. Notice how they also had hearts and such? That's something that never changed throughout it. Another thing is that it was just an error that overall happened due to their origins; which was originally Cole's parents being turned into them. Thus, the Zordon wave couldn't have hit them. So a dub-induced plot hole.

No she didn't. Both her and her dad are local regular space aliens. They attacked The Magna Defender's planet 3000 years ago.

edited 15th May '18 6:52:59 AM by Ghilz

I don't think that counts as a dub-induced plot hole since Wild Force isn't dubbing anything. Granted, Wild Force straight up lifted several plots from the sentai, but this isn't one of them. As for the Z-wave I assumed the reason Zordon didn't just offed himself to end all evil is because of the limited range. The alliance of evil gathering together to invade also meant they were close enough to get hit with it. After all, there were still villains around on planet Onyx.

edited 15th May '18 6:53:33 AM by Ikedatakeshi

I'm pretty sure it was stated the Z wave only targeted the United Alliance of Evil which Trakeena and her crew weren't members of.

Of course, the Z-Wave missed a bunch of villains on Earth, so much about range.

Either you meant those who were sealed away, or normal human criminals, which I assumed the Z-wave wouldn't affect.

Or the guy from Dino Charge who was a monster for millions of years wandering the earth since the death of the dinosaurs.

(Or the demons who despite being "sealed" can kidnap and raise a human for like 12 years)

Or Toxica and Jindrax who were not sealed away...

Or Camille who was just chilling on Dai Shi's palace wall.

edited 15th May '18 7:03:52 AM by Ghilz

It didn't miss any actual non-humans on Earth because they were inactive by being buried away. The best I can think of, as Jindrax and Toxica were in actual human forms, and clearly were not pure evil, was that it had no effect on them. It clearly affected the Earth, as we saw the wave hit it, but not much on it or it was weakened by that point. It's kind of oddly written.

Magna Defender was not on Earth 3,000 years ago. We saw him spring up from Mirinoi early on. Eventually Leo came back... somehow, despite not being there anymore? As it took place on Terra Venture when they switched again.

As for Scorpius, we saw him come in through a portal right at the start. His homeworld is unmentioned. There's nothing to suggest he lived in that universe. It more implied he was from a different one due to conquering worlds. Coupled with looks like a dimensional portal, and you get a different impression. It's odd they don't specify it much.

Okay, new theories. The Z-wave only killed those who were actively doing evil at the time, or only the villains that Zordon knows about.

Or the portal is a wormwhole linking two points in space in the same dimension. Power Rangers have those.

Heck, it's how the Galaxy Rangers conveniently make it to Earth for crossover the following season.

Case and point for Scorpius not being extra dimensional is that Trakeena cannot follow Terra Venture to the lost Galaxy, she ambushes them when they come back. Along with all of Scorpius' backstory and flunkies all being in this dimension.

Still doesn't explain Fury, who was a monster, in monster form, not sealed away, and predates all those guys, and never left earth for literally million of years.

Probably the most sensical idea.

edited 15th May '18 7:12:54 AM by Ghilz

Ah, good point on Scorpius. It's vague, though.

Fury might not have actually been on Earth at the time. Actually, he wasn't. The spaceship was already gone at that time, with Fury inside with the rest of the crew. This suggests they were out of range or in another dimension at that point. Likely out of range, as the range wasn't all that big.

Mesagog didn't exist yet. He was created years later.

Camille may have been sealed away in the wall by choice, as that's kind of vague. Dai Shi was definitely sealed away.

It's probably a case of "need to be entirely out in the open" or something. Actively doing evil wouldn't entirely work, as Scorpius absolutely was. Being out of range or in another dimension at the time is more feasible in this case.

If being sealed away includes "hiding in a human form and not specifically doing evil" too? Then Jindrax and Toxica were safe. Also, makes me wonder if they weren't deleted but chose to go back to evil or something. Either way, it's definitely unexplained for them more than anybody else.

Re-Watch Dino Charge

Fury wasn't ON the ship. He got blown on of it by Mentor's bomb and lived on Earth for 65 Million years. Sledge were gone, yes. Fury, totally on Earth. He fought Ivan and absorbed him in the middle ages.

Also the "Was human at the time" sort of is eyebrow raising when the Z-Wave cleansed human enemies (Rita, Divatox).

I definitely lean on "It worked on Villains Zordon was aware of at the time"

edited 15th May '18 7:42:21 AM by Ghilz

Actually, Jindrax and Toxica were only shown in pure human form before then.

It's probably just a range thing more likely. We know it wasn't the biggest wave ever. Also, it'd make perfect sense if it turned Jindrax and Toxica into humans, but they went back to evil later on. If they can make it work for Lord Zedd, it's not unbelievable it can work for others. Obviously they never planned out the ending to matter for later seasons, as the series nearly ended at In Space anyway.

And my bad on Fury. But see the last sentence of my previous paragraph.

The best explanation for the Z-Wave and the later monsters that show up is that it had a limited range, there were gaps in the wave itself and couldn't affect something already Sealed Evil in a Can.

Funny enough, I had a trilogy of PR movies developed in my head (before the recent movie came out) where the finale would have been all these different enemies converging on Earth, overwhelming the Rangers, and Zordon would use the ZEO crystal in a Heroic Sacrifice to produce the Z-Wave. It would explain how Zordon was powerful enough to do such a thing (his power limitations being in the tube was a recurring element of the series) and also establish both a limited range and the right timing needed to even BE a viable option (enemies converging on one place and It Only Works Once).

Still not explaining how it missed Fury

Again, best explanation is Ikedatakeshi's: It only affected things Zordon knew about (in range).

Agreed. The limited range makes more sense at this point. That or it never actually affected much of Earth. Alternatively, it's just a bad plot hole they didn't think through.

Power Rangers Legacy Wars - Official Street Fighter Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJab596Z0Js

Now I want TMNT, Big Bad Beetleborgs(not the pathetic version of the Machine Empire), and Kamen Rider(since Masked Rider is practically disowned) for crossover content.

A fan made intro for Beast Morphers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjfHUNSBEZE

I hope the season is somewhat different from Ninja Steel.

Beast Morphers/Go Busters suits on display at the Licensing show

Saban Brands will shutting down in July 2, 2018 by making Hasbro not just owning Power Rangers but other I Ps http://ukiyaseed.weebly.com/ukiyaseeds-other-blog/saban-brands-to-shut-down-this-july

edited 24th May '18 10:03:18 PM by DragonKent17

So anyone got any theories how Drakkon is going down?

I posted my theory on the WMG page, involving Dark Specter playing the role of Darkseid, keeping in mind the number of Crisis On Infinite Earths vibes in Shattered Grid.