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iTeruri Since: Aug, 2010
#14002: Jul 30th 2016 at 12:11:14 AM

You probably can't get the cardback with gold. When buying with gold you can only buy individual wings as they get released over the weeks, not the entire adventure at once. At least that's how it's been in the past.

Which makes sense, because the Naxx and BRM cardbacks were also exclusively obtainable when buying the adventure with money (as a preorder bonus.)

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#14003: Jul 30th 2016 at 12:19:26 AM

Dumb question: If you casted Firelands Portal on your opponent's Sylvanas, would they take control of the summoned minion from the spell, or would the deathrattle resolve before the spell spawns the minion?

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#14004: Jul 30th 2016 at 12:25:39 AM

I do not know, you could test it via On The Hunt on a 5/1 or 1/1 sylvanas.

It is the same basic spell.

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#14005: Jul 30th 2016 at 7:46:21 AM

2 new cards revealed:

  • Malchezaar's Imp: 1-mana 1/3 Warlock Common Minion. Demon. Whenever you discard a card, draw a card.
  • Babbling Book: 1-mana 1/1 Mage Rare Minion. Battlecry: Add a random Mage spell to your hand.

edited 30th Jul '16 10:01:23 AM by Pyrite

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#14006: Jul 30th 2016 at 7:55:33 AM

Another 1/3? At least this one doesn't look like it will be annoying

Discard mechanics are all over the place and i think this card won't work for the class. It's already competing with pretty good warlock 1 drops (Void Walker, Flame Imp, Possessed Villager, etc)

And mage gets another decent arena card. Yay?

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#14007: Jul 30th 2016 at 8:32:04 AM

Why must it be a random spell? Why can't it be discover? Whhhhhy? sad

The imp is interesting. If not for all the great 1 drops already existing, it might be a nice way to prevent falling behind on cards. Maybe it's meant to be played on turn 3 with that 2 drop, or on 6 with mr. charge your face?

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#14008: Jul 30th 2016 at 9:04:54 AM

It would probably be too strong, considering the amount of good spells Mage has in the first place.

The imp looks eh-ish. I doubt Discard-based deck will ever become a thing that can stand on its own. At the very least it has a reasonable statine.

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#14009: Jul 30th 2016 at 9:09:35 AM

Malchezaar's Imp: I think that's about the most powerful 1-drop card draw mechanic (especially in a class as Zoo-friendly as Warlock) you could reasonably have without it being hideously overpowered. I'm not sure exactly how useful it will be, but I'm okay with trying out more discard synergy effects. (This might make Darkshire Librarian... kind of useful in some situations. So, neat?)

Raving Grimoire: The reason this has to be a random Mage spell rather than a Discover effect is because a 1-mana Ethereal Conjurer effect would be fucking horrifying. As it is, this is still really good, though I don't know if it can make the cut for too many constructed decks... Besides Casino Mage, I guess. (It might not be a respectable constructed deck, but it's still a constructed deck! :P )

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#14010: Jul 30th 2016 at 9:13:38 AM

Raving Grimoire is basically a 1/1 Spell Slinger that only affects you, reduces the pool of spell cards to just Mage cards and can be played 2 turns earlier.

Yeah this card will be awesome in arena. And clearly Firelands Portal wasn't good enough apparently tonguetonguetongue

On the discard subject, we need more cards like Fist of Jaraxxus that are affected when discarded. Darkshire Librarian becomes sort of a "Draw Twice" card

edited 30th Jul '16 9:15:21 AM by fasoman1996

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#14011: Jul 30th 2016 at 10:01:10 AM

Amendment: the Mage card is named "Babbling Book", while the Warlock card is named "Malchezaar's Imp", as confirmed by Mike Donais.

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#14012: Jul 30th 2016 at 11:02:25 AM

Dumb question: If you casted Firelands Portal on your opponent's Sylvanas, would they take control of the summoned minion from the spell, or would the deathrattle resolve before the spell spawns the minion?
Not a dumb question at all. From my understanding of the rules, it sounds like Sylvanas should be able to steal the newly summoned minion. Implosion would presumably already cause a similar effect. I'm not 100% sure though.

Why must it be a random spell? Why can't it be discover? Whhhhhy?
Uh, because mage didn't need any more grossly overpowered cards?

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#14013: Jul 30th 2016 at 11:17:43 AM

A 1-cost Discovery card is ridiculously overpowered, even if it'll only allow you to Discover a 1-cost Spell. I'm fine with it being random, though it's not exactly a card that fits a tempo mage, unless I get really lucky and get a low-cost spell.

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#14014: Jul 30th 2016 at 11:34:45 AM

Hmm... Counting Firelands Portal too, we currently have 30 Mage spells in Standard. Of those, 18 of them cost 3 Mana or less (7 of those being Secrets). So you have a 60% chance of getting a <= 3 cost spell off of the minion... And many of the higher cost spells are extremely useful regardless. (Getting a Cabalist's Tomb off of it in particular seems like a great result for Tempo Mage) I think it's viable enough. (I mean, Tempo Mage can already run Spellslinger, so)

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#14015: Jul 30th 2016 at 12:32:41 PM

I despise using Spellslinger for the fact that it also gives your opponent a spell. I've lost a good number of games because it gave them exactly the sort of spell they needed. I prefer sticking to Cabalist's Tome, though I only run one of those on my deck instead of two. But if I do indeed end up with a Tome from a Babbling Book there're worse spells to get.

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#14016: Jul 30th 2016 at 12:37:28 PM

[up] That's because you don't praise to the almighty Yogg.

Is it me or is Mage becaming much more random than Priest?

Hell, some Random Mage Decks are actually competitive tonguetongue

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#14017: Jul 30th 2016 at 1:21:14 PM

Most if not all random mage spells are a massive net positive way over the mana cost of doing such a thing with anything else.

Arcane Missiles, 3 random missiles that always hit your opponent, For example. Nothing else can hit for 3 for just 1 mana without help or overload.

edited 30th Jul '16 1:22:41 PM by Memers

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#14018: Jul 30th 2016 at 1:22:52 PM

I find myself in the weird position of not really caring about the cards at all since I've kind of stopped playing Hearthstone, but I really just want to play this adventure.

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#14019: Jul 30th 2016 at 3:53:42 PM

It must be remembered that Blizzard can't just think about the current meta when printing new cards, but also about the future meta after older cards have cycled out of Standard. Eventually, Spellslinger and Ethereal Conjurer will be gone while Babbling Book will remain.

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#14020: Jul 30th 2016 at 5:33:36 PM

It's a 1/1 body though. A single 1/1 body is a terrible turn 1 play. The only upside to it is card advantage a la Novice Engineer and Museum Curator. It might be ok in Arena but I don't think there's a current constructed deck it would fit in. Control/Reno mage at best, maybe.

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#14021: Jul 30th 2016 at 6:42:56 PM

I dont know there are very few bad mage spells, getting one and a 1/1 I think is about as good as the 1/3 weapon.

Its not a bad card and I think it could go well in a spell mage deck.

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#14022: Jul 30th 2016 at 7:08:43 PM

Yogg decks are going to loooooooooooooooooove that card

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#14023: Jul 31st 2016 at 2:08:05 AM

New card reveals, confirmed by Mike Donais:

  • Book Wyrm: 6-mana 3/6 Neutral Rare Minion. Dragon. Battlecry: If you're holding a Dragon, destroy an enemy minion with 3 Attack or less.
  • Moroes: 3-mana 1/1 Neutral Legendary Minion. Stealth. At the end of your turn, summon a 1/1 Steward.

Moroes and his minions die to nearly everything under the sun, but the question is whether your opponent really wants to commit one AOE/whirlwind effect just to get rid of him. (The answer depends on which class you're playing, but it's probably not enough of a threat to warrant an immediate AOE on its own.) Book Wyrm seems like a slightly more expensive (and slightly more conditional, but targetable) Stampeding Kodo, but the difference between 2 and 3 Attack is huge.

edited 31st Jul '16 2:31:57 AM by Pyrite

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#14024: Jul 31st 2016 at 2:13:50 AM

Ok Moroes just plain sucks. A single swipe, whirlwind, arcane explosion, etc and it's ruined.

Not a single card so far has been really exciting. Nothing to really break the aggro/warriors everywhere meta.

Where be the priest card that makes them playable again!

edited 31st Jul '16 2:33:06 AM by Memers

iTeruri Since: Aug, 2010
#14025: Jul 31st 2016 at 2:41:01 AM

A conditional targeted Kodo with a better effect and one more health for one more mana. That seems good for Control oriented Dragon decks (so not the Tempo based Warrior ones.) Makes other conditional battlecries better because you've got one more dragon, increasing the chance you're holding a dragon when you need one.

Moroes is a worse Imp Master in most cases, I think. What a shame. Barnes and the Curator are really cool legendary minions, Moroes is really underwhelming.


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