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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#1226: Mar 21st 2015 at 11:08:38 AM

Well, since Uni's are wielding weapon with their TK, it sorta makes sense.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#1227: Mar 21st 2015 at 11:34:17 AM

...Wait what? They use telekinesis and by default their weapon attack rolls are strength without feat?

...Let me guess, they use exact same rules as humanoid races, but its explained with telekinesis?...

Thats.. Disappointing. Why make quadruped race without arms if you are going to make them play the same anyway?...

Anyway, eh. Even if we would all play ponyfinder, are there more than 3 in total gmt +2 people here?...

edited 21st Mar '15 11:42:27 AM by SpookyMask

TheNobody Since: Jan, 2011
#1228: Mar 21st 2015 at 2:16:56 PM

I also vote against Ponyfinder. Yeah, ponies are nice these days, but the only conversions I liked were of were of this kind, and this kind.

EDIT, because I've been ninja'd. To clarify, I don't refuse to play Ponyfinder outright, but instead express my dislike and suspicion. And I might also ask on that other forum I post occasionally, that might bring in more players.

edited 21st Mar '15 2:20:16 PM by TheNobody

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#1229: Mar 21st 2015 at 2:53:41 PM

Unicorns are the exception to the rule. Most pony types use their mouths for their weapons or mount them on their back for two handed weapons.

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#1230: Mar 21st 2015 at 3:32:56 PM

I'd also rather not but I refuse based on a love for ponies and the feeling that D&D, and most TTG, is not a good fit for them.

Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#1231: Mar 21st 2015 at 8:10:53 PM

No unicorns use their mouths, or a battle saddle (Technically a 'weapon rack' it allows any non-light weapon to be attached to a harness on the pony's back so it can be used in combat.) by default just like all other 'fingerless' races in the thing. The feat is what allows them to use TK to wield their weapon, and why it's based on INT rather then STR.

Rosvo1 Since: Aug, 2009
#1232: Mar 22nd 2015 at 1:34:59 AM

For reference, I was joking.

I mean, I'm not sure if I can even join this game.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#1233: Mar 22nd 2015 at 2:34:38 AM

I kinda guessed you were joking, but figured out its rude to assume you are joking tongue I'm more annoyed at you pointing out you are also in gmt +2 when you probably don't have time though. But thats because I've been trying to start session on Pathfinder society and I'm annoyed why everyone who replies to my threads that they are interested are so slow to actually tell when they want to play. Like, is it because everyone hates me, because I said something wrong, because I wasn't clear enough, am I having perception bias(I feel like people are much faster with it when applying to other threads), because I lack commanding presence, because everyone knows I haven't run sessions before, is everyone just that busy, etc?

Basically, I like it when everything is clear and people give straight answers and don't leave me hanging for days :P

edited 22nd Mar '15 2:41:47 AM by SpookyMask

TheNobody Since: Jan, 2011
#1234: Mar 23rd 2015 at 11:50:29 AM

Who doesn't, though?

Speaking of which, if I try to apply this archetype to a monk, which class features might it replace? The "{feature} Body" group? Or maybe Fast Movement?

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#1235: Mar 23rd 2015 at 1:11:32 PM

Well, that is barbarian archetype, archetypes aren't meant to be mixed from to different parent classes, so you'd have to homebrew that stuff anyway.

Anyhoo, my withdrawal over lack of weekly gaming fix is really annoying :p I wonder if people here(well, I'm already aware that people from Europe are really rare at this point of forum for some reason, but whatever) would be interested in stuff other than Pathfinder too. But I don't really want to do recruitment thread since I'm not sure if those are supposed to be in this section anyway. And roleplaying sign up forum section is intended for forum rps unless I'm wrong?

TheNobody Since: Jan, 2011
#1236: Mar 23rd 2015 at 2:14:33 PM

Yeah, it's a Barbarian archetype, but - have you seen it? It's a "rage" that boosts Dexterity and Wisdom. For a Barbarian, that's mildly useful, but for a Monk it improves AC twice; and with Weapon Finesse, also the attack bonus. And the fluff, achieving a state of clarity and concentration, is just perfect for a monk.

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#1237: Mar 23rd 2015 at 6:12:36 PM

For one thing, for a barbarian that's extremely useful if you're going for a ranged build.

Secondly, I feel like that aspect of achieving physical and mental aptitude through willpower and focus is...kind of already coded into the monk. It's not the same mechanically, obviously, but that's already the monk's whole thing; using that as an archetype kinda seems like...flavor text double-dipping.

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#1238: Mar 23rd 2015 at 8:36:12 PM

I want to play Ponyfinder not because of any interest in the subject matter, but a friend got me an early PDF. And I discovered that playing a Unicorn Kensai is just so ridiculously awesome. Just about EVERYTHING can be based on Int for that build.

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Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#1239: Mar 23rd 2015 at 9:05:20 PM

[up] Heh yup. Plus, some of the other races and feats are just amazing and fun.

One of the NPC's is a fighter, and with Iron Hooves (Gives a hoof attack as a natural attack) and Power Buck (If you hit with two hoof attacks in a single attack action, you Rend the target), and the improved Rend feats, gets all her regular weapon attacks, and two hoof attacks, with the first one dealing double damage, plus 1d4 bleed damage through Rend.

The whole setting is just amazing, even without any tie to another franchise.

TheNobody Since: Jan, 2011
#1240: Mar 26th 2015 at 12:50:44 PM

I was trying to make a "Knight in shining armor" kind of character, in at least medium armor (breastplate) and a two-handed sword. Paladin class would be the obvious choice... But I want to make him a "Counterfeit Paladin", who's only in for the fame and the girls. Fighter is kind of too plain, and Cavaliers focus too much on the mount. And those that don't, aren't suited for a two-handed sword.

What can you suggest? Some archetypes or alternate classes? If going with the Fighter after all, then maybe a build with a twist?

edited 26th Mar '15 12:51:12 PM by TheNobody

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Bouncy Since: Nov, 2011
#1242: Mar 26th 2015 at 1:47:04 PM

Perhaps a level or two of Magus to fake "divine" magic? Only the informed would know better; and the informed would be able to tell he's a fake paladin anyway. Not sure offhand if Magus's can use medium armor <I am relatively new to Pathfinder and I haven't looked at all the classes thoroughly just yet> but it is a random thought!

edited 26th Mar '15 1:47:47 PM by Bouncy

TheNobody Since: Jan, 2011
#1244: Mar 26th 2015 at 2:14:35 PM

Magus... -es? Magi? They start proficient in Medium Armor, but learn to cast in it only around level 5-ish, if memory serves me well.

Inquisitor, you say? Hmm, maybe. Can they pull off a "Hark, fair maiden, for thine eyes is the only divine guidance I'll seek!" and then run away before she wakes up?

And Barbarian - that might actually be interesting. Can they be non-Chaotic? I insisted on a two-handed sword earlier, because it's supposed to be a magical item that mistakes the character's divine ancestry (he's an Aasimar) for being an actual Paladin. And, learning the truth, reluctantly agrees to help anyway.

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#1245: Mar 26th 2015 at 2:21:56 PM

I think they have to be Chaotic.

I played a Babarian who thought he was a Paladin and that his Rage was divinely inspired.

TheNobody Since: Jan, 2011
#1246: Mar 26th 2015 at 2:39:35 PM

"Any nonlawful". Barbarian it is, then.

Also, your character implies interesting stories. Tell us more.

edited 26th Mar '15 2:40:15 PM by TheNobody

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#1247: Mar 26th 2015 at 2:48:00 PM

The Low Templar prestige class from Inner Sea World Guide sounds like it'd be up your character's alley. "Under a sanctified veneer, they walk a wavering line between heroism and thuggery."

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#1248: Mar 26th 2015 at 8:29:58 PM

If you're willing to settle for a one-handed weapon and a Dex focus with no magic, go with Cavalier, Daring Champion Archetype (medium armour, trades out the mount), Order of the Cockatrice.

If you must two-hand and also want casting, pick a Bloodrager - Celestial Bloodline for the divine flavour, although I hear that there are mechanically stronger options.

edited 26th Mar '15 8:38:52 PM by Pyrite

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#1249: Mar 27th 2015 at 9:31:12 AM

@The Nobody: He got his head asploded at lv 2 by lv 6 monk before I get anything much done with him.

TheNobody Since: Jan, 2011
#1250: Mar 28th 2015 at 2:23:02 AM

Low Templar: It's too much of a backstabbing antihero. What I had in mind was a guy who does a noble deed in a noble fashion (and the more noble and the more fashionable the better), but pretends that his noble goals have nothing to do with glory, gold and pretty girls.

Lurker Pyrite: Daring Champion of the Cockatrice is an interesting idea, because this would let the character use his Charisma in more creative ways than just Intimidating Glare rage power. Too bad Bastard Swords aren't Piercing... The drawback to this - there's already a designated Swashbuckler. On the other hand, characters with Panache could become a "theme".

As for the Celestial Bloodrager - I'm not concerned about mechanically stronger options, but I would like to keep two-hand and drop the casting.

Awesome: Okay, I must hear this. How did that happen? This wasn't just your character caught shoplifting, was it?

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