The way US labor laws work, they can fire you for not liking the color of your shoe lace.
So they could still easily boot them, and just say it was that.
Not everywhere, and it depends on if said place is unionized.
A woman's aviation group has decided to honour Hanna Reitsch, who became the first woman to ever fly a helicopter back in 'ole 1937, which seems pretty cool until you learn she was totally a literal Nazi.
Mireille Goyer, the Vancouver-based founder and president of the Institute for Women of Aviation Worldwide (WOAW), told CBC that WOAW is "not into making a political statement" and that "her controversial part in political history, to me, that's not relevant."
With the recognition of Reitsch coinciding with International Women's Day, WOAW has been blasted online for the decision to honour an actual Nazi.
Reitsch wasn't even an ordinary, terrible Nazi; she was an extreme supporter of Adolf Hitler and was in close contact with him (as in, there is a literal photo of her shaking his hand◊). Yet WOAW wants Reitsch's commemoration to be based on her achievements as a female pilot alone, rather than the part of career where she pitched the idea of enlisting a suicide squad of pilots to strategically bomb the Allies during World War II.
Honouring Nazis is a tricky affair at the best of times and the choice to commemorate Reitsch seems even more bizarre given it comes amidst a time where anti-Semitism and Neo-Nazism appears to be on the rise in Canada and the US.
But some members of WOAW seem fairly unbothered by it.
"Are we going to keep on talking about the past?" WOAW member Margureite Varin said a recent event in Montreal according to the CBC. Varin even said there are videos of Reitsch on YouTube explaining how airplanes function, adding "It's really cute to watch her talk about it. It was amazing that a woman, 80 years ago, did such a thing." Another thing this woman did 80 years ago? Nazi stuff.
Air Canada, a sponsor of WOAW, is now reconsidering their funding given the controversy. The airline said in a statement they "were not involved in the planning and choice of theme, or consulted and advised of any people being recognized. Our support is determined on an annual basis and we will be reviewing it."
I'm not particularly a fan of trying to erase someone's contributions from history because you don't like their politics. Better to acknowledge both the good and the bad. You can honor someone for being a pioneer in aviation while still condemning them for being a Nazi.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.What is next? The Nobel prize of medicine for Mengele for his groundbreaking work with transplants?
No one is erasing her deeds, it is that the person who did them isn't worth being celebrated
edited 13th Mar '17 9:51:10 AM by AngelusNox
Inter arma enim silent legesStill, of all the women in aviation, couldn't they find someone other than one of Hitler's biggest fangirls to honor?
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.Yeah, the whole "SHE WAS A NAZI" thing kind of overshadows whatever else she accomplished in life.
edited 13th Mar '17 10:21:19 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedI find myself a little torn. She shouldn't be honored, but her accomplishments also shouldn't be erased or brushed aside. If we start writing monsters out of history we'll have nothing left but scraps.
i. hear. a. sound.That, plus it starts one hell of a slippery slope, whats next we erase Valentina Tereshkova because she was a communist? How about we erase Archemeaies since he supported a culture that had slaves and treated women like property
Its quite easy to tell you never read any medical books, because they DO credit Mengele, just because some one is a horible person does not mean there contributions to science are erased.
Want a nazi that that is universally honored for his contributions dispite using slave labor and deploying some of the worst terror weapons of the war, oh thats right his name is Wernher Von Braun, and he got man to the moon.
Again, there is a diffrence between recognizing some ones contributions and agreeing with what they did.
I don't think you understand what I meant with that statement. Giving the Nobel prize, which is a humanitarian award, to someone who committed acts of unspeakable evil in the name of science and sadism is quite counterproductive.
I know Mengele had a groundbreaking research on organ transplant, specially heart transplants, but acknowledging him for his work, recognizing that without his, mostly cruel, experiments the medical world would take decades to advance to the level he achieved is very very very different from giving him an award and praise for his work.
Which is why honoring the lets kill all Jews, fly suicide missions to bomb the allies and be Hitler's and the Nazis poster girl because she was the first woman to fly an helicopter is fundamentally wrong.
While it doesn't erase the deeds that she did, there is a whole baggage attached with it and it would be better to find someone who isn't a horrible human being to be celebrated.
Inter arma enim silent legesFirst female leader of a helicopter squadron? First women helicopter pilot wounded in action? First women to pilot a helicopter and be downed? First women helicopter pilot to get X number of kills? Frost female helicopter ace? I don't know, but I'm sure there are women helicopter pilots out there with achievements to their name that wern't literal nazis.
Let me put it this way, of all the first's for women in aviation, why choose the one that was achieved by a Nazi that advocated suicide bombing and genocide?
edited 13th Mar '17 3:58:35 PM by Silasw
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ CyranBecause women aren't morally perfect?
But people aren't complaining about it because she was a woman, they are complaining because the person was a Nazi.
Neither are men, but if we're honouring great men I'd rather we honour the non-nazi ones over the Nazi ones.
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ CyranShe also said Reitsch’s Nazi past was not mentioned as the WOAW is “not into making political statements”.
If you're an organisation about celebrating the role of women you're inherently political, that's before one gets onto the fact that celebrating a Nazi is a political act even if you're celebrating them for something non-Nazi related.
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ CyranYeah, not mentioning her being a Nazi is just white-washing. And therefore also political.
I think that the world is getting too soft on nazis lately. I don't care what their gender is or if they were the first in their category to do something. Just, ugh.
I liked it better when Questionable Casting was called WTH Casting AgencyIt's been almost eighty years since they were a thing. We draw closer and closer to a world where nobody was actually alive when they committed their terrible crimes. Consequentially, the sting of their actions is starting to be numbed as they become just another event in a long, long history of terrible events.
I actually wouldn't be surprised if we live to see a time when it becomes socially acceptable to think Nazis were kinda cool, the same way you can romanticize Romans, Crusaders, or Colonial Americans.
My Tumblr. Currently liveblogging Haruhi Suzumiya and revisiting Danganronpa V3.That's already happened, and relatively soon after the war. First it was generals peddling the "clean Wehrmacht" myth, then the HIAG fuckers did the same to the Waffen SS. And there are people with minimize Nazi crimes all the time, and sadly a lot of them aren't outright neo-Nazis/other brand of radical, just ignorant (and/or really anti-American/Western/Russian/Communist).
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.We already do!
You just have to add but what they did to the Jews horrible in the end of all the fan wankery over the Nazi...German efficiency, super weapons, good looking uniforms and uber everthing!
Inter arma enim silent legesA literal feminazi. Never thought I would get to see this.
All you need to have that confirmed.
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
If they call in, I doubt they'd face repercussions. It was the people doing no-call-no-shows for the Immigrant protest that got fired. A lot of places will sack people for no call no shows.