Equestria Girls: A MLP:FiM Spin Off

So, something I noticed about Wallflower's character design: she's not wearing socks. That's gross, Wallflower.

Visual shorthand for poor hygiene?

While I greatly prefer socks myself, I don't think not wearing them is that big a deal. At least, I've known lots of people who don't or rarely wear socks with their shoes or sandals, but it's never resulted in a hygiene problem. Like, not even a bit of foot odor.

She could be wearing those ankle socks then end up halfway in your shoes by the end of the day because they refuse to stay on your feet completely.

Ankle socks sound possible, but she's also named after nature, so being almost barefoot isn't hard to believe. That said, I doubt that would be allowed, so ankle socks sound about right.

...I'm aware the school is kind of strange at this point with their rules, but eh.

I'd forgotten that people just had disproportionately long legs in this (sub?)franchise. Had to double-check if the other characters had the same thing going on.

Re: the socks thing, there is apparently such a thing as "loafer socks" which are basically socks with so little material that you can't tell someone's wearing anything under their shoes unless you look really closely.

Y'know, it's really too bad Wallflower kept erasing the audience's memory of her being in every movie. A lonely girl who just shows up looking sad in the background of various scenes? The fandom would have given her a name, an elaborate backstory, a trove of fanfics, and three separate voice actors on You Tube before the first EQG ended.

I'm more bothered by the loafers than the lack of visible socks. People would notice you if you wore some real shoes, Wallflower!

I am happy that Wallflower didn't turn into a raging she-demon and try to conquer/destroy everything. It made for a more personal story.

...I've seen people wear those kind of shoes like that all the time, what are y'all getting mad about.

edited 24th Feb '18 7:40:58 PM by AdricDePsycho

I cannot overstate how happy I am that there was no One-Winged Angel form for Wallflower. I'm so over cheap Midnight Sparkle knock-offs.

And argument could be made that Midnight Sparkle was, herself, a cheap knock-off of Sunset Shimmer's super form in the first EQG but Midnight did it better. She's the apex of One-Winged Angel forms. You're not gonna do that story in any way that's going to be more engaging than Twilight Sparkle herself.

On the one side of the fence, we have Gloriosa Daisy and Juniper Montage. On the other, we have the Dazzlings and Wallflower Blush. Are these enough datapoints to say that rehashing Midnight Sparkle is the less interesting way to tell the story?

The Where's Wallflower tag needs more love.

Also, pony Wallflower plushie. That was fast.

As weak a villain as Sunset was, one thing I liked about her, the Dazzlings, and Wallflower was that them being actively malicious made the story more compelling. Twilight was pressured into being the villain, which was also interesting in it's own way.

Gloriosa basically stumbled into villainy and I don't really remember Juniper. The first group was interesting even before they went all One-Winged Angel, and Wallflower didn't even need it. The other two it felt more like they went monster out of obligation to storyboarding.

Gloriosa gets a pass from me because she had an awesome villain song. But Juniper was bungled through and through.

Juniper is outright the single worst villain I've ever seen in anything.

Everything you've seen ever? That's a pretty high bar, at least for me. I'm sure I've seen loads of things that were worse.

I mean compared to some of the stuff I have seen, yeah, she's the outright worst. I've never seen a villain who leaves me with this amount of unyielding rage at how awful they are.

Gloriosa did have a pretty good villain song. "WE WILL STAND FOR EVERFREE!!!"

I regret that Buffy's too old for YouTube to have very many clip memes, because there's a moment where one of Glory's minions remarks, "Nicely punned," to another for making a crack about "our day of glory!" that I always want to reply to that lyric with.

While Juniper is not the worst villain I've ever seen, her transformation has got to be the worst attempts I've ever seen at a One-Winged Angel. Who in their right mind would think a giant Norma Desmond would make a threatening villain?

Wait, I take that back. A giant Norma Desmond actually sounds like an interesting villain, which Juniper wasn't.

Juniper was the point where it didn't even feel like they were trying anymore.

• Sunset Shimmer's One-Winged Angel form gave her the power to brainwash kids en masse and shoot energy beams of destruction.
• Twilight Sparkle developed the ability to tear holes in the fabric of the universe.
• Gloriosa Daisy got Poison Ivy superpowers that let her generate malicious vines and malevolent super-plants.
• Juniper became tall. Like, really tall.

Pfft, I've seen taller!

Yeah Juniper was pretty bad. I'm usually very forgiving of this show but I will not defend her at all. The best I can say is that she's not my least favorite villain ever (currently the mastermind of Danganronpa V3 and one of the Persona 5 antagonists are drawing most of my ire).

I personally love the One-Winged Angel trope as an aspect of how equestrian magic interacts with the human world. The idea of them completely dropping the concept because they couldn't possibly match Midnight Sparkle rubs me the wrong way.

Having said that, they botched Juniper's super hard. I like Juniper as a character, but her tenure as villain was not done any favors because of how short the special was and how badly they handled her corruption.

So I'm happy Wallflower skipped a trasnformation. It helps that she was wielding an artifact that contained the magic, and that it wasn't fueled by the elements of harmony, whcih means the corrupting rules might not even apply.

Notably, Juniper was also wielding an artifact, and it only became fueled by the Elements of Harmony as a random third-act Diabolus ex Machina.

They could have gone the Juniper route and, like, had the Memory Stone become super-powerful because it sucked out the Element-bearers' memories and turn Wallflower into a floating monster of doom. It wouldn't make any sense, but neither did Juniper. But they didn't and that's great.

Here's something that no one probably thought about, Sci-Twilight's alter ego is Midnight Sparkle, does this mean Princess Twilight Sparkle has Midnight Sparkle as well?

Fun fact, I'm actually writing a fic on Fimfiction right now whose cover image is Pony Twilight as Midnight Sparkle. It's still half-finished so I obviously can't talk third act details, but suffice it to say, it's not going to be metaphorical.

Due to magical shenanigans, the story has three separate Twilights running around, and I'm kinda banking on a guessing game over which one's actually going to go Midnight.

The image in question is this, used with permission from the artist.

edited 28th Feb '18 12:39:01 PM by TobiasDrake

Here's something else I thought about, what if another one of Sci-Twilight's alter egos would terrify Midnight, like maybe a sterotypical mad scientist ego of Sci-Twilight trying to use Midnight as a lab rat. It would put a lot of emphasis on the saying that when there's someone bad, there's always someone much worse