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Worlder What? Since: Jan, 2001
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#1: Jan 25th 2013 at 6:22:56 PM

In the typical stealth game one has to hide from the guards.

I'm wonder if there is a game you play as one of the guards and must either kill or capture that sneaky intruder?

TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#2: Jan 25th 2013 at 7:04:57 PM

I haven't came across one per se, but the Dungeon Master and Overlord games reversed the roles of the standard dungeon crawler genre games.

ShirowShirow Since: Nov, 2009
#3: Jan 25th 2013 at 7:11:46 PM

Splinter Cell had a multiplayer setup like this. It was fun.

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#4: Jan 25th 2013 at 7:23:59 PM

Yeah, there was this one mod for the Source engine made a while back called The Hidden. Everyone is a guard on one team, and at the start of every round someone is chosen at random to be the stealth guy. He's supposed to kill all the guards, while the guards are supposed to kill him. I haven't played it in a while, but it was pretty neat.

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Worlder What? Since: Jan, 2001
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#5: Jan 25th 2013 at 7:41:13 PM

Sure 1 vs Many multiplayer is the easiest way to implement.

But what about giving the sneaker task to the AI?

Ryuhza from San Diego County, California Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
#6: Jan 25th 2013 at 8:21:53 PM

MGS 4 era Metal Gear Online had some modes like this. One had two sides, one team hunted with heavy arms, the other team was equipped with invisibility gadgets (which made everything but your gun/knife invisible) and nonlethal firearms (though they could use heavier weapons taken off of the enemy team.) However, if one single soldier on the stealth team was spotted (I believe they had to be fired upon), an alert status would go up, and the entire stealth team's gadgets would stop functioning until they got out of sight.

Another game mode was a three-way battle between two typical Team Deathmatch teams, and Snake, who was equipped with his auto-blending Octocamo. The two other teams had to kill snake a certain amount of times (and/or each other I believe), whereas snake had to apprehend three or four soldiers and get dog tags off of them to win. Snake also had assistance from another player in the Remote control Metal Gear Mk. II.

Both very neat game modes.

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Worlder What? Since: Jan, 2001
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#7: Jan 25th 2013 at 8:24:53 PM

I know this is easily doable in competitive multiplayer, but what about single player or co-op/PvE?

edited 25th Jan '13 8:27:13 PM by Worlder

StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#8: Jan 25th 2013 at 8:37:54 PM

I imagine this type of game probably isn't nearly as interesting in a single player game. At least if you just play as a guard. Maybe if you played as a hunter looking for a target who sneaks, but then the hunter has to use stealth too.

I think a game like that would need to be split up into different scenarios or stages. It might be really hard to make a sneaky AI s well. It would probably need to be a first person game as well.

edited 25th Jan '13 8:39:00 PM by StarOutlaw

Sabbo from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#9: Jan 25th 2013 at 8:41:10 PM

I think as a player vs AI thing, it would work better if the player had control over every guard.

And the defense systems.

edited 25th Jan '13 8:41:28 PM by Sabbo

Worlder What? Since: Jan, 2001
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#10: Jan 25th 2013 at 9:07:04 PM

I think for single player, one has to radio the other guards occasionally but not too frequently.

Not knowing that your fellow guard either went unconscious or died several minutes ago will allow the AI intruder to continue on with its current plan of attack. Radioing the guards to frequent from distract them with chatter allowing the intruder to slip by unnoticed.

Alarms and lockdowns are a surefire ways to catch the enemy however they will subtract from the score as they are difficult to reset and may disrupt the valuable non-security activities.

metaphysician Since: Oct, 2010
#11: Jan 26th 2013 at 9:38:18 AM

I think the problem with making the stealth enemy AI is that, AI isn't necessarily going to be up to the task of challenging a human player.

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#12: Jan 26th 2013 at 9:47:43 AM

Could it work as special kind of tower defense game?

Specialist290 Since: Jan, 2001
#13: Jan 26th 2013 at 10:03:42 AM

I think the closest thing you'll find is probably Evil Genius. You play a Bond villain (for all intents and purposes, that's what he is), and periodically enemy agents will attempt to sneak in and foil your latest scheme. When you capture them, you can do all kinds of little interesting things to them...

Really, a lot of base-building simulation games have infiltrating enemies that you have to design defenses against. It's just they usually advertise the base-building aspect more than the reverse-stealth-game angle, since that's why most people are interested in them in the first place.

edited 26th Jan '13 10:12:00 AM by Specialist290

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