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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#251: Jul 25th 2013 at 9:12:42 PM

[up]For me Ness didn't even take out the Ghosts of Starmen and Final Starmen. Paula just put up her PSI reflector and bounced back the Starstorms.

But on the point about Ness being strong enough to protect Paula, what use are the other two, ultimately?

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#252: Jul 25th 2013 at 9:21:05 PM

Without Ness and Jeff, they'd have ended their journey at Happy Happy village and Threed, respectively. Poo was the only one who could take them to the Pink Cloud, and I suppose the power of Starstorm was prophesied somewhere. Jeff also meant they could teleport to Winters, and had the help of Dr Andonuts.

And ultimately, the quest as a whole had them touch the hearts of people all around the world. Paula's prayer wouldn't have reached so many people without that, I think.

And Ness's strength was needed to shatter the "nightmare boulder", whatever that is. Maybe he was needed to defeat the Devil's Machine. But Porky shut that off... Hm...

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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#253: Jul 26th 2013 at 8:06:44 AM

[up]Ness's Nightmare is the Nightmare Boulder; it takes the form of a statue, which is made of stone (gold is a kind of stone), and boulders are also made of stone.

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#254: Jul 26th 2013 at 8:39:51 AM

Gold is a metal.

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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#255: Jul 26th 2013 at 8:43:47 AM

[up]But it's found either in rocks or as rocks.

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#256: Jul 26th 2013 at 8:45:57 AM

Also, the legend talks about said shattering being because of the passage/flow of time.

I think that refers to Ness's eventual time travel.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#257: Jul 26th 2013 at 12:11:45 PM

I think that refers to Ness growing over time.

Ness's adventure gives him the strength to defeat his inner evil.

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#258: Jul 26th 2013 at 10:42:30 PM

Except he got the full exten of the power right after beating the nightmare.

I think that, while the quest to get the melodies imbued Ness with enough power to stand up to Giygas's first few forms, the important part wasn't the melodies, or the power gained from the quest.

It was the quest itself. Ness traveled all over, made friens, gained companions, and touched peoples' hearts wherever he wen. And in the end, everyone came together and joined them in prayer to defeat Giygas. Including, in a Neverending Story (in the book anyway) sort of way, the player. The player is one of the people who Ness connected to in his journey, and who helped defeat Gigyas with the power of their bonds.

Recall Buzz Buzz. He said tht the most importnt things were wisdom, courage, and friendship. Power, despite the chance for a Zelda reference, was not there. It's useful, but incidental, I think.

In less heavy news, I just repaired the Shield Killer in my file! Woo! ...and it immediately fails to strip a Guardian Digger's power shield. Woo.

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#259: Jul 26th 2013 at 10:55:01 PM

I meant that the quest gave Ness enough strength to defeat Ness's Nightmare. The passage of time (The quest and experience gained on it) will shatter the nightmare rock (Ness's Nightmare).

So basically Ness gained enough strength to gain more strength. Takes strength to make strength, I guess...

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#260: Jul 26th 2013 at 10:56:48 PM

Of course, the nightmare rock could also be the actual Mani Mani statue, or the Devil's Machine.

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#261: Jul 26th 2013 at 11:01:04 PM

Is the Mani Mani Statue an actual creation or agent of Giygas, or is it a completely unrelated evil power that just so happened to get caught up in this fiasco?

...I kinda like the latter idea, helps fragment Earthbound's plot even more.

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#262: Jul 26th 2013 at 11:02:59 PM

I think it's Giygas-connected. It was telling Monotoli to keep Ness away from Summers and the pyramid.

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#263: Jul 26th 2013 at 11:04:09 PM

Ah, that.

So then, was it created by Giygas, or is being manipulated/allied with by Giygas, is the million dollar question now.

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#264: Jul 26th 2013 at 11:51:30 PM

You know, I was looking up the history of Earthbound/ Mother, and I realized something.

The official name for the main character is Ness, and Earth Bound was on the Super Nintendo Entertainment System.

Or in other words, you play as Ness... on the SNES.

And then I spent five minutes kicking myself for not noticing this before.

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#265: Jul 27th 2013 at 4:52:45 AM

And, gosh, the protagonist of the previous game is called Ninten! Do you reckon there could be some kind of reference there?

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#266: Jul 27th 2013 at 8:04:37 AM

And Mother 3 is on the Game Boy Lu- wait.

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#267: Jul 27th 2013 at 12:05:24 PM

[up][up] Hey, I SAID "five minutes kicking myself," didn't I?

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#268: Jul 27th 2013 at 7:22:55 PM

Ahah. I managed to get the double dialogue glitch on the Clumsy Robot fight.

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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#269: Jul 27th 2013 at 8:42:31 PM

[up]I've never gotten that glitch, but it's really funny. I just tend to use paralysis on Clumsy, leaving it helpless.

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#270: Jul 27th 2013 at 8:51:21 PM

Yeh, I had Power Shields up, so his last missle triggered twice.

Anyway, Poo has now joined. Got any good suggeestions as to where to quickly level grind him to be on par with the others?

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#271: Jul 28th 2013 at 8:13:26 AM

[up]Dusty Dunes Desert with the Criminal Caterpillar or Scaraba Desert with the Master Criminal Worm. A trick with that is that both those enemies spawn only in certain points on the map, so if you just make that spot go offscreen and come back repeatedly, you'll countinuously spawn them.

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#272: Jul 29th 2013 at 6:14:38 PM

Bought it, started a file. Ness = Lucas, Paula = Hina, Jeff = Steve, Poo = Kim. Favorite food: Clams (don't know what i was thinking), and coolest thing? As a boy of 199X, it has to be Sonic.

What are these butterflies doing to me, again?

Also, is there anything I should be doing before heading off to Giant Step?

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#273: Jul 29th 2013 at 6:16:19 PM

Getting the key.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#274: Jul 29th 2013 at 6:19:59 PM

If you didn't find it yet, the Mr. Baseball Cap in the hidden treehouse just a little ways south of Giant Step is a nice defense boost before you have to deal with the ludicrously gutsy mice on your path.

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#275: Jul 29th 2013 at 6:44:58 PM

You know what's funny? Naming Ness something vulgar.

Because then Giygas's "NESS NESS NESS NESS NESS NESS NESS NESS NESS" line is instead Giygas swearing like a sailor.

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