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KarjamP The imaginative Christian Asperger from South Africa Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#1: Sep 15th 2012 at 2:34:11 AM

I do not know who's the person the one doing the wild card excuse is, as I'm not familiar with the work.

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#2: Sep 15th 2012 at 3:34:03 AM

I have no idea what's going on in the image; it mentions the existence of the trope but doesn't actually show it. Also, yeah, JAFAAC even if the caption is in the speech bubble.

Motion to pull.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#3: Sep 15th 2012 at 4:23:40 AM

It mentions and uses the trope. Not JAFAAC. The wildcard excuse in this case is "because of his excessive gaming". I saw this picture before I read the manga in question, and I didn't have trouble understanding it.

It also doesn't harm the trope, so I say Keep Until Better Image Suggested.

edited 15th Sep '12 4:23:53 AM by AnotherDuck

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#4: Sep 15th 2012 at 5:18:22 AM

Two previous threads didn't come up with anything better, so I'm gonna go with Keep Until Better Image Suggested.

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#5: Sep 15th 2012 at 5:26:04 AM

Keep Until Better Image Suggested from me as well. I support adding an additional instance or two where the gag is present.

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#7: Sep 15th 2012 at 6:11:33 AM

[up][up] That's a good idea.

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#8: Sep 15th 2012 at 7:38:53 AM

[up][up][up] If it can be done, that'd be fine with me.

petrie911 Since: Aug, 2009
#9: Sep 15th 2012 at 1:48:29 PM

Is this image supposed to be read right to left? Because if so, that needs fixing.

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KarjamP The imaginative Christian Asperger from South Africa Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#10: Sep 16th 2012 at 4:35:55 AM

[up] It's manga.

Of course it's supposed to be read from right to left!

And other pages containing manga usually also have it like that, so I'd recommend one to not modify it.

edited 16th Sep '12 4:42:30 AM by KarjamP

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#11: Sep 16th 2012 at 5:19:37 AM

I don't think the left bubble is important to the trope anyway.

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#12: Sep 16th 2012 at 5:40:45 AM

I couldn't make heads or tails of it left-to-right OR right-to-left. As such, I say it's a bad image because it doesn't have the setup for the wildcard excuse. Ideally, you shouldn't have to point out what the example is in the image.

On the other hand, this is a purely dialogue trope, so I think only a montage from a single work would be worth having an image at all.

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#13: Sep 16th 2012 at 11:52:26 AM

I don't get it. It's pointing to a speech bubble and telling us it's a "wildcard excuse", but that still doesn't tell us what that means.

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#14: Sep 16th 2012 at 12:03:19 PM

Okay, so given the disagreement here, and the fact that the previous two threads just stalled out with no clear conclusion, I think we should crowner this.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#15: Sep 16th 2012 at 4:44:23 PM

"Of course it's supposed to be read from right to left! And other pages containing manga usually also have it like that, so I'd recommend one to not modify it."

That is not true. Manga is often flipped. The only time it's not, intentionally, is when that wouldn't matter.

Flipped version:


Also, in the second previous thread, Osmium said "I don't like the current picture. No indication of a running gag and we can't see the situation leading to this excuse, making it impossible to judge how implausible it is. Maybe adding two panels of the manga showing this excuse used in different situations?" Agree.

edited 16th Sep '12 4:56:13 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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KarjamP The imaginative Christian Asperger from South Africa Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#16: Sep 17th 2012 at 11:20:58 AM

[up] I was talking about TV tropes pages.

Besides, I know that manga can be flipped for an english, but some don't.

I didn't know that it's done often.

bananasloth serial tweaker, sorry from Budapest Since: Nov, 2009
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#17: Sep 17th 2012 at 11:29:06 AM

[up] I think Rodney was also talking about the site, but even if he wasn't, it applies- manga here is often (though not always) flipped.

Anyway, I'm strongly against the image staying up (at least on its own), for the same reason he cited in [up][up].

edited 17th Sep '12 11:32:46 AM by bananasloth

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petrie911 Since: Aug, 2009
#18: Sep 17th 2012 at 12:14:32 PM

I agree that the image should be taken down. It really isn't helping, for the reasons stated.

If the image is going to stay up, it should be swapped for the flipped version. English reads left to right, and we should not expect our readers to know that manga reads right to left.

edited 17th Sep '12 12:15:33 PM by petrie911

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#19: Sep 17th 2012 at 12:52:32 PM

I also meant on TV Tropes pages.

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KarjamP The imaginative Christian Asperger from South Africa Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#20: Sep 17th 2012 at 10:58:26 PM

Found the crowner again. going to holler again.

edited 17th Sep '12 11:13:03 PM by KarjamP

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#21: Oct 5th 2012 at 7:55:33 AM

I would say toss in the flipped one, but Keep Until Better Image Suggested.

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nitrokitty Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
#22: Oct 6th 2012 at 3:15:21 AM

I say pull. It's a bad image that is adding nothing to the page. I think this one may have to be imageless, I can't think of a way to picture it.

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#24: Nov 10th 2012 at 7:22:19 AM

Clock's up; locking for inactivity/lack of consensus. No action is to be taken based on this thread.

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