DP, AD:JL and TLATOJL: How would a crossover between them work?

Yes, i know i've already done a conversation regarding "Danny Phantom", "American Dragon: Jake Long" and "The Life and Times of Juniper Lee". But rather than be about pointing out the similarities and the differences, this conversation is about how we, the fans would think a crossover between the two would work.

Personally, i see Danny and June arguing for certain duration of the special, while Jake struggles to keep the trio together. I also imagine Haley and Ray Ray forming a romantic bond

What do you think?

They're owned by competing companies, so a crossover between the three will likely never happen. Also, Juniper Lee is almost completely forgotten, and there are other things to consider.

edited 5th Sep '12 2:04:01 PM by RTaco

Not to mention the mythology of Juniper Lee is completely destroyed by the presence of either of the others.

I hate you.

Anyway, I think it's plausible between ADJL and TLATOJL, but DP seems to have different style to both of them.

I don't dislike Jake Long, but as I've said before, I think Juniper Lee was much better and definitely Needs More Love.

Jake Long was like, right on the edge of being good, but wound up being on the watchable side of mediocre thanks to the network's efforts to make it pure garbage. I dunno how many people read the producers' blogs while it was airing, but the meddling they put up with was a pretty consummate picture of everything that was wrong with Disney during the 2000's.

I mean, I can't think of any other network that'd mandate a fart joke.

edited 5th Sep '12 9:20:57 PM by Pykrete

All the more reason that Juniper Lee was better — it wasn't meddled with as much, if at all.

Why is it always a debate on whether ADJL or TLATOJL is better?

Besides, meddling isn't automatically bad(though I've definitely come to be baffled by the meddling ADJL suffered), and sometimes it's amazing how the creators manage to make it into something even better.

edited 6th Sep '12 6:54:39 AM by blueflame724

I think the plot and concept between them was very similar, so I think story and theme wise, a cross-over would work.

Personally, I think DP would do well crossing over with any super-hero, Spider Man in particular.

I think you all misunderstood me, let me clarify. When i said, how would a crossover between the three shows work, i meant if the shows ever did crossover (and i understand that's a nearly impossible if) how would you imagine the way they would turn out?

By which i mean:

How would you imagine the characters interacting?

What would be the group dynamic?

Who would you see as the main villain?

How the three main characters would even meet (I'm going with the Multiverse angle)?

That sort of thing

Yeah, there's a difference between "you can't show a key and well-known backstory death DIRECTLY onscreen" and "your fire-breathing dragon can't breathe fire because it promotes arson or something".

One of them allows a story but constrains the view. Camera angles can be worked around — key character traits, not quite so much.

edited 6th Sep '12 11:26:50 AM by Pykrete

As is said, both had very similar premises. Also, while most people seem to like one and dislike the other, I still like Jake Long even if I think Juniper Lee is superior. (Same thing with Sonic SatAM vs. Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog. Why is it wrong to like both, as I do?)

Also, never seen Danny Phantom, but I've seen Hartman's other shows and the thought of him trying to do an action show scares me.

It was a great kind of love-letter to the silver and bronze age Spider Man, which was great for me, since I found it immediately after Joe Quesada desecrated Peter to the point I was temporarily unable to read Spider-Man without cringing.

edited 6th Sep '12 12:24:54 PM by Ronnie

Which would completely go over my head, since I don't know crap about Spider-Man. I just never got exposed to anything superhero growing up, in part because I ignored it out of disinterest.

"Then why do you like Juniper Lee so much, if she's basically a superheroine?"

..Oh, Crap!.

^ I absolutely love DP, and I don't know shit about Spider Man either.

But then, I love superheroes.

I think it'd be totally different from what we've seen fans write/draw so far :D (i.e. no shipping, they are their own ages) Like going by their personalities alone, it feels like they wouldn't gel well in a normal situation, but in an emergency, they would probably be kind of supportive cause they have the same goal? They'd be rad though

There's like a three-way magic at work here and the shows all have different show-mechanics at work to bring that out. i.e. DP has science, but then there's all sorts of ghost magic and mythical ghost and spirits. AD has these kind of traditional mythical lore about it and a more "Modern Magic" vibe to it. TLATOJL takes a kind of different take on all it's monsters and magic i.e. tall leprechauns and a village of kinda dumb sasquatches.

I could argue that all three of them take an aggressive way out of their fights but they all have their mellow points. Jake's the one most likely to not pick a fight and try to find a peaceful solution, while Danny and June are more likely to fin the quickest way out, Juniper probably resorting to banishment at first, cause that's the easiest and fastest way for an evil magic situation. But eh, a real crossover would definitely be more like a cross-promotion of all three shows/channels I think.

edited 31st May '15 1:21:21 AM by enesiirm