Fallen London [Echo Bazaar]

I think it looks like they're homing in on the 'tough choice' elements this year — to the point it's almost pick your poison, really. Contrarian's not as obviously monstrous as the others, but it's still pretty obvious his campaign is something of a, if not a farce necessarily, then a bit of a wink-and-nod, nudge nudge. His 'plans' and his plans — do they contradict? Probably, yes. His official platform is unnerving, but when you dig deeper into what he might mean it becomes concerning in the opposite direction — Failbetter know the majority of the playerbase are ambivalent or hostile to the Revolutionaries, and the ominous presentation of challenging the Constables' effectiveness is noteworthy.

I think overall Jovial's 'platform', both unofficial and official, is better than the alternatives. Any democratisation brought under Slowcake is likely to be corrupted at the source for the purposes of Hell, and I perish to think what he means by a meritocracy. I can only imagine it's sorting people by the worth of their souls. What happens to Rubberies, or the unnotable? The Princess's plan amounts to 'host an art contest', which is ineffectual at best and concerning at worst: what will making London more 'beautiful' entail, in her eyes? Jovial's platform weakens the Master's use of their main tools. I suppose this could have some arguable good to it, but in any case it comes off as a lesser evil compared to rule under the Princess.

From the talk I've heard around the forums, I think Slowcake is out for this one. Either the Captivating Princess and the Jovial Contrarian are likely to be the winners; though a lot of the supporters of the Princess have a bit of tongue-in-cheek behind their RP, I think. Most of the in-game polls over, 'Who would you rescue in a fire?', 'Who would you like to have a drink with?' lean towards them. If I had to guess, I'd put my money on the Contrarian being the final victor. Still, I wouldn't say it's certain. I wonder if the votes will be different for new players; last time most of Feducci's support came from less established players, to the point he won the election in something of an upset. One hopes the Princess won't win just for having a pretty face, eh?

I am a bit disappointed in the mechanics of this election. Last year it had its flaws, but as a Campaigner it got me onto the Failbetter forums, interacting with others and soliciting donations / getting into debates. This one amounts to 'wait on opportunity cards'. It's not really as engaging, nor does it draw you to the community side of things — which I think should be important given the kind of event it is. The choice of Campaigner, Fixer, Agitator is a bit more meaningless as well, though there are still some unique rewards. It's not a dealbreaker, 'course, and maybe the lack of social actions is natural as they prepare to put in a total redesign of the site. The increased frequency of faction cards can be profitable, of course.

Edited by Lavaeolus on Jun 27th 2018 at 2:41:45 PM

Has anybody wondered why brass is so prevalent with stories involving Devils?

It's Hell's main export. Probably most of the brass in London comes from them, a lot of Hell items are made of it, and there's a general association between the devils and brass; notably, the devils' embassy is called 'the Brass Embassy'.

Their main import, of course, is souls.

Edited by Lavaeolus on Jul 17th 2018 at 6:10:45 PM

I will clarify: I meant the Doylist basis.

So, what are your favorite stories, inhabitants of the Neath?

Edited by fredhot16 on Sep 14th 2018 at 10:04:45 AM

There's no Sunless Skies thread and unsure if making one would be worth it so posting here.

Because I've been watching a bunch of Let's Plays for Sunless Skies and tbh it's clicking with me way more as a game and universe way more than Fallen London or Sunless Sea ever did.

It's just got a perfect blend of factors that appeal to me so much:

• The steampunk Lovecraftian aesthetic which as a throwback to 18th/19th literature and culture is much more interesting than what its predecessors were doing for me. I also really like the artstyle a lot more in Skies.
• Completely blowing up and unravelling both setting and mysteries built up is a power move that I am totally in favor of. Yep there are giant alien space bats and crabs, and also the suns are gods, you can go kill 2/3 of them if you try hard enough.
• Love all the officers and their storylines from what I've seen
• The setting is just fascinating all-around. The infusion of banal imperialism and labor exploitation with cosmic horror is just one of those things that instantly makes sense.

I may throw down on Sunless Skies - Sunless Sea I like but... something about it I can't just get into. I think the balance of resources, the unclear journal and the sheer length of time it takes to get places makes it too much of a time sink. I like the writing but think it's a tad too slow...

Though I do like the Solar Engine and what it does... (THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN)

I have Sunless Skies and Sunless Sea yet I can only play Sunless Sea with any degree of reliability on the computer.

Edited by fredhot16 on May 25th 2019 at 3:23:36 AM

Noob here on Fallen London universe. Having played the game, it feels like a point and click game to me which is nice. Not sure if I can continue it because I'm an F 2 P but its pretty interesting if you ask me.

Pretty sure the vast majority of the content is all the free stuff, most of the stories you can do don't get blocked by a paywall from my experience as an F2P too.

Makes sense... Yeah, glad to play this game a little bit and I remember that I recently trying to clear a quest on defeating the mysterious Vake or exterminating some vermins. Though I wonder if there are several quest that could increase your persuasion skills

Apologies for the thread necro, but there's recently been an announcement that the four central Ambitions (Nemesis, Heart's Desire, To Bag a Legend, and Light Fingers) will have their conclusions released soon in celebration of ''Fallen London'' becoming 10 years old.

• The conclusion of Nemesis will be released on January 14
• The conclusion of Bag a Legend will be released on March 3
• The conclusion of Light Fingers will be released on March 31
• The conclusion of Heart's Desire will be released on April 21

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Jan 11th 2020 at 1:47:20 AM

Fucking finally!

Nice, I think the one that's mine is just a few days after my birthday. Too bad I'm still kinda stonewalled by my lack of... Respectable? idk, it's been a while.

So apparently the Nemesis Ambition has finally concluded by this point. Out of curiosity, for those who played it, how does it end? I'm still waiting for the Bag a Legend conclusion to arrive, but I'm curious as to how the story of Nemesis plays out.

From what I've seen so far, apparently you can end up killing Mr Cups and/or have your slain loved one be brought back to life?

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Feb 3rd 2020 at 11:33:08 AM

Heads-up: The update to "Bag a Legend" is out.

I finally did it; I completed "Bag a Legend." After years of waiting for the conclusion, I've completed the Ambition. It took a chunk of Echoes I was hoping to eventually save up for a firkin of cider, but it was worth it.

I ended up sparing the part of Veils that was a vicious animal, so now I can ride a space bat as a steed.

Wow, hadn't played it for years, ambition's finally getting ending? Awesome, let's see if I can bag the Vake. (also still salty about accidentally siding with a Master in the Box affair even though I want to expose it...guess I might use Fate I have to rewind it)

Edited by onyhow on Mar 25th 2020 at 10:34:50 AM

Today's the first day of Mr. Chimes' Grand Clearing-Out!

This is a brand new, one-off festival that's replacing the election this year. Instead of competing to elect mayoral candidates, players are collaborating to excavate five dig sites around London, with a permanent repeatable action being unlocked once each is complete. To help excavate a dig site, you can: 1. Just use actions to help dig. 2. Use Bone Market/Upper River items (Incorruptible Biscuits, Rubbery Pies, etc.) to help supply the dig. 3. Spend Fate to purchase the event currency Chthonic Scrip, which can be exchanged for five new items, or ones from past Elections. Each player can get 30 Chthonic Scrip without spending fate by exchanging 200 Glim Fragments.

Each dig site is being excavated separately: in order to completely excavate a dig site, all three of the actions above have to be done at that dig site a certain number of times. Doing one and two above will grant a reward each time, including generic rewards, new unique items, and Vocation-specific items from past elections. The Fate spend has already been completed for all five sites, but the other two categories are still at less than 10% complete (~25,000-65,000 out of 1,000,000 points, depending on the site) as of this post. The event will continue for as long as it takes to completely excavate all five dig sites (the devs estimate one to two weeks), as well as a one week grace period after that.

Has anyone else tried the demo for Mask of the Rose yet? I'm less interested in the period immediately after the Fall, but the writing pulled me in anyway (as I expected, really).

I insisted on asking all the census questions exactly as Pages enscriptified them.