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getchman from Cheshire, Ct Since: Apr, 2010
#1: Jul 23rd 2012 at 9:34:49 AM

So creating a new forum was easier than I thought it would be. Anyways, on to the show.

I'm liking it so far. Rather amusing how Mina is not bothered by Ryosuke's perverted personality at all

edited 23rd Jul '12 9:43:56 AM by getchman

UltimatelySubjective Conceptually Frameworked from Once, not long ago Since: Jun, 2011
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#2: Jul 28th 2012 at 12:01:22 AM

Anyone still watching this?

I stopped watching at episode 2.

Can it be said to get any better?

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burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#3: Jul 28th 2012 at 12:06:15 AM

I'm watching it out of boredom.

It's not much better right now.

UltimatelySubjective Conceptually Frameworked from Once, not long ago Since: Jun, 2011
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#4: Jul 28th 2012 at 12:08:54 AM

Ah well, I guess it's ecchi that doesn't want to do anything other than ecchi.

I suppose there were some fight scenes, but they really weren't very notable.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#5: Aug 5th 2012 at 7:54:47 AM

I was bored, so I looked this up. I find it better if I look at it as a comedy/parody rather than an ecchi series. It's pretty average for its type, really.

The good part is that pretty much all of those Accidental Pervert moments he finds himself in aren't really accidental, so the ensuing violence doesn't seem as out of place as it usually is. Another plus is that the childhood friend isn't jealous, and she admits her feelings. This actually makes the characters more reasonable than they are in most of these series. Well, other than him. He's not all that reasonable at all. Sort of like how Keima would be if he was crossed with Issei.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Aug 5th 2012 at 9:35:16 AM

I find it pretty depressing how it seems like I can walk into every other random thread about an anime series I don't know anything about and find people saying what boils down to "this is the same thing as all the other things of its type except for these minute differences in Obligatory Element A and Obligatory Element B."

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#7: Aug 5th 2012 at 9:46:40 AM

The gems are always hard to find, no matter what medium or region. Most of everything is mediocre. When it comes to things without quality filtering, like fanfics, most of everything is crap.

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UltimatelySubjective Conceptually Frameworked from Once, not long ago Since: Jun, 2011
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#8: Aug 5th 2012 at 6:59:21 PM

Yeah I agree it's not bad filtering like that. It's not hard to tell when something isn't an outstanding anime.

It's a testament to how bland things are that we're all so dismissive like that.

Yes, Sturgeon's Law.

"Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri, quo me cumque rapit tempestas, deferor hospes."
getchman from Cheshire, Ct Since: Apr, 2010
#9: Aug 5th 2012 at 7:03:57 PM

while it's not the best thing ive ever watched, it is entertaining and amusing so i'll keep watching

getchman from Cheshire, Ct Since: Apr, 2010
burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#11: Aug 17th 2012 at 7:07:52 AM

Important.

edited 17th Aug '12 7:08:02 AM by burnpsy

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#12: Aug 18th 2012 at 3:39:30 PM

Watching this, my main thought is generally, "High School DXD, but less well-animated".

I wonder what the little miss is up to...

The maid with glasses was cute.

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getchman from Cheshire, Ct Since: Apr, 2010
#13: Aug 26th 2012 at 1:12:54 PM

ok, this is getting much better now that the plot has arrived

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#14: Aug 31st 2012 at 6:36:11 PM

There are two types of fanservice. First there's the one that essentially stops the plot so the audience can gawk at whatever the artists have cooked up. Sometimes with that obnoxious "Oh, yeah!" Stock Sound Effect tacked on. This is usually just annoying. Most frequent in fanservice comedies, often harem series.

Second there's the type that happens alongside the plot. It's just there in the background, or foreground, sometimes incidental and sometimes relevant to the plot. However, the plot keep trotting ahead like it usually does. I think one of the best examples is Agent Aika. There's barely a frame (okay, maybe half as an honest estimate) without some kind of fanservice, and yet that doesn't stop the plot from happening (not saying anything about whether the plot is good).

Many series go from using mainly the first to using the second once the real plot kicks in. This happened one or two episodes ago in this series, and it's all the much better for it. So, if you give up after just an episode or two, you're giving it up for the wrong reason.

edited 31st Aug '12 6:36:34 PM by AnotherDuck

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UltimatelySubjective Conceptually Frameworked from Once, not long ago Since: Jun, 2011
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#15: Aug 31st 2012 at 7:23:54 PM

[up] The "Oh yeah sound effect usually indicates a third type of fanservice; The parody of over-the-top fanservice.

And even if you divide it like that, in my opinion the quantity of fanservice is still a factor...

And regarding this show it already used up it's supply of chances with me long ago. Unless it got really really good since then.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#16: Aug 31st 2012 at 8:28:59 PM

In my experience, that parody of fanservice is usually made to actually be the same fanservice it parodies, so the parody fails, but I'd say calling it a parody is giving it too much credit. It's like painting an exact copy of Mona Lisa and taping on a sign that says "parody". Either way it's one of the most annoying things I've ever heard in anime, and it never fails to ruin any kind of immersion I've felt before that.

I can't really say how good it is until I've seen all of it, but it is a lot better now than it was before. If you've already decided to not like it, it's probably for the better than you don't watch it, though.

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burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#17: Aug 31st 2012 at 9:08:15 PM

It's only decent at this point, and only if I were to ignore the beginning's rampant fanservice.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#18: Sep 1st 2012 at 12:08:44 AM

That's another thing I've never really understood. There are a lot of people who equates fanservice with bad. That is, if something contains fanservice, it's automatically bad. Or if it's good, it can only be good despite the fanservice, or only if you ignore it. For some reason, that also more than occasionally exclude fanservice for girls (which at worst is labelled fandisservice).

My personal opinion is that those people are just prudes.

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Kayeka Since: Dec, 2009
#19: Sep 1st 2012 at 12:42:43 AM

[up]Or maybe they just don't like being talked down to. "Here! Boobs! You like boobs, so now you like our show, right? Here, have some more boobs! And some more! Yeah, yeah, we'll get to the plot later, but first, enjoy some more BOOBS!"

F*ck that noise.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#20: Sep 1st 2012 at 2:17:18 AM

[up]I'm not just talking obvious and obnoxious things like that, but also smaller things like "It had a pantyshot, so it's bad," even if drawing it like that would be more natural than relying on a Magic Skirt.

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Kayeka Since: Dec, 2009
#21: Sep 1st 2012 at 3:14:08 AM

Eh. My personal rule is this: Fanservice is just fine if it's an added bonus. Once it starts becoming a selling point, something went wrong.

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#22: Sep 1st 2012 at 9:12:27 AM

I don't equate fanservice with bad, but the way this series did it can't be called anything else until the plot kicked in.

getchman from Cheshire, Ct Since: Apr, 2010
#23: Sep 2nd 2012 at 11:12:46 AM

so maybe Mina is the strong soul?

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#24: Sep 2nd 2012 at 12:48:45 PM

[up][up]You mean you can't call it anything else.

[up][up][up]That's still the same line of thinking. "It focuses on fanservice, therefore something went wrong." Actually, you just said a selling point, which is even worse.

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burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#25: Sep 2nd 2012 at 1:10:16 PM

State at least a single thing about this series that could be considered good before the point at which the plot went into high gear.

Before then, all I really see is what appeared to be an Excuse Plot that's meant to sell a large amount of Blu-Rays through some of the most explicit fanservice seen this year outside of hentai. I usually don't mind that sort of thing, and I'll even go as far as to say that I rather enjoyed DXD a few seasons ago, but even I was only watching this because I was bored.

edited 2nd Sep '12 1:11:57 PM by burnpsy


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