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Deadlock Clock: Aug 15th 2013 at 11:59:00 PM
Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#76: Jun 24th 2013 at 3:21:45 PM

Well, we do have Sex Is Evil.

What's precedent ever done for us?
KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#77: Jun 24th 2013 at 4:25:23 PM

Yeah, but what Duck was saying also holds some weight. Basically, if you equate sex = evil, then Evil Is Sexy is the enforcement of that.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#78: Jun 24th 2013 at 4:58:00 PM

Sex and lust, while related, aren't the same. One's an act and the other's an emotion. Functionally, they have similar differences. The aversion to sex is largely (though not solely) about the physical problems that may occur, while lust is about corruption of the mind, and the social problems that stems from it. Sure, there's a thematic overlap, but they're different beasts.

In the case of this trope, it's about how the intent to inspire lust is evil, i.e. dressing sexily. I'm not sure if it's really different from Sensible Heroes, Skimpy Villains, other than lacking the contrast aspect, but on the other hand, that would make it a supertrope. And to me Sensible Heroes, Skimpy Villains is basically just a way to show this trope off more clearly.

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KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#79: Jun 24th 2013 at 6:56:16 PM

I don't know if I agree with that first paragraph, but I can't put my finger on my problem with it yet. It's giving me an "almost, but not quite" vibe about it.

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#80: Jun 24th 2013 at 7:06:34 PM

I would say the attitude behind Sex Is Evil traditionally had to do with many of the factors you ascribe to lust.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#81: Jun 24th 2013 at 7:37:37 PM

I think it's probably a more relevant argument that "this" trope doesn't have to be mutually inclusive with Sex Is Evil.

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#82: Jul 11th 2013 at 5:45:11 AM

Bump...we need to get some kind of resolution on this, both for its own sake and because there's an IP thread tied to it.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#83: Jul 11th 2013 at 5:47:25 AM

Seems like the topic stalled about what to do with the whole "Evil Is Seductive" angle. More specifically, that we don't have anything we could use to make it into its own trope.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#84: Jul 11th 2013 at 12:48:54 PM

I still say we just turn it into an index and worry about how to trope Evil Is Seductive later. Anything's got to be better than the current Sexy Villains page.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#88: Aug 16th 2013 at 4:04:18 AM

Clock's up; locking up.

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