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Well, we do have Sex Is Evil.
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Yeah, but what Duck was saying also holds some weight. Basically, if you equate sex = evil, then Evil Is Sexy is the enforcement of that.

 78 Another Duck, Mon, 24th Jun '13 4:58:00 PM from Stockholm Relationship Status: Chocolate!
No, the other one.
Sex and lust, while related, aren't the same. One's an act and the other's an emotion. Functionally, they have similar differences. The aversion to sex is largely (though not solely) about the physical problems that may occur, while lust is about corruption of the mind, and the social problems that stems from it. Sure, there's a thematic overlap, but they're different beasts.

In the case of this trope, it's about how the intent to inspire lust is evil, i.e. dressing sexily. I'm not sure if it's really different from Sensible Heroes, Skimpy Villains, other than lacking the contrast aspect, but on the other hand, that would make it a supertrope. And to me Sensible Heroes, Skimpy Villains is basically just a way to show this trope off more clearly.
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I don't know if I agree with that first paragraph, but I can't put my finger on my problem with it yet. It's giving me an "almost, but not quite" vibe about it.

I would say the attitude behind Sex Is Evil traditionally had to do with many of the factors you ascribe to lust.

 81 nrjxll, Mon, 24th Jun '13 7:37:37 PM Relationship Status: Not war
I think it's probably a more relevant argument that "this" trope doesn't have to be mutually inclusive with Sex Is Evil.

 82 Willbyr, Thu, 11th Jul '13 5:45:11 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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Bump...we need to get some kind of resolution on this, both for its own sake and because there's an IP thread tied to it.
 83 Septimus Heap, Thu, 11th Jul '13 5:47:25 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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Seems like the topic stalled about what to do with the whole "Evil Is Seductive" angle. More specifically, that we don't have anything we could use to make it into its own trope.

 84 nrjxll, Thu, 11th Jul '13 12:48:54 PM Relationship Status: Not war
I still say we just turn it into an index and worry about how to trope Evil Is Seductive later. Anything's got to be better than the current Sexy Villains page.

Agreed.

 86 Willbyr, Thu, 11th Jul '13 8:50:24 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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I can live with that.
 87 Willbyr, Mon, 12th Aug '13 3:47:34 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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 88 Willbyr, Fri, 16th Aug '13 4:04:18 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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Clock's up; locking up.
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