So I just saw the movie.
To be honest this is probably the most well-constructed film Disney has recently done outside of Wreck-it Ralph. I think WIR's villain twist was better in the sense of it being more of a legitimate surprise, but i think callaghan is a more thematically powerful villain because the movie's overall theme of loss and the horrible things it can make people do is just more powerful.
i have to say, hiro almost killing callaghan was probably the darkest scene i have seen in a disney movie in a very long time. everything about it and how it fits into the movie thematically is extremely well-constructed and very impactful.
definitely a MUCH better film than Frozen in terms of narrative construction all around, would watch again.
edited 22nd Nov '14 8:54:38 AM by wehrmacht
I don't think it was very long. Callaghan, I think, had slightly darker hair in the video.
Also, I did manage to clarify: In the end credits, Hiro was shaking hands with a fireman, with the other 6, in full armour. So at that point, people knew them.
edited 22nd Nov '14 8:51:09 AM by edvedd
Visit my Tumblr! I may say things. The Bureau ProjectNothing in terms of whether or not quarantine was just a ruse, although considering that it was an ex- military base I presume that it was probably government sanctioned. In terms of how old Abigail is or how old the place was abandoned for, the book doesn't shed any more light than the film. It does mention that it was covered in cobwebs and a thick layer of dust, but that might just be narrative description
I can agree with that. Wreck It Ralph's villain was certainly more or less a reveal than an actual twist- kind of like Roger Rabbit or The Princess And The Frog, you already know who the bad guy is from the minute you meet him. It's how dark and twisted they can actually transform him over the course of the film that makes him scary. Yokai, I feel, was sort of the best of both worlds where they don't wait until the end of the film to show just how messed up he is. Also, about Hiro killing Yokai- this is the first time Disney did something like this and made it believable. I can't think of any other character from their animated library that might be willing to go that far- even Mr. Incredible eventually caved into common sense eventually. Hiro would have pursued had no one stopped him
edited 22nd Nov '14 9:34:53 AM by Mattonymy
You are displaying abnormally high compulsions to over-analyze works of fiction and media. Diagnosis: TV Tropes Addiction.Best scene of the film. It makes me hope for more morally grey protagonists in the future with that form of pathos.
I don't think I've every seen a film show parallels between the hero and the villain so well before. Bonus points for not needing to directly call it out. No one need say Hiro, you are acting just like Callahan. Also, Feast was adorable. I don't think it was quite up to Paperman or Get a Horse, but it quite good.
I'm almost amazed at how subtle Big Hero was at specific scenes. Not just between the connection of the Hiro and the villain, but also how Baymax is essentially Tadashi, how Hiro's ethnicity of being white and japanese was made to intentionally match the east-west blend between San Francisco or Japan, or that the film was shot directly to parallel a Marvel movie (Yes, Word of God says this).
For instance, the part where Hiro and Tadashi are both in prison in the beginning, I'm wondering if people picked up on the reason why they each got their own separate cells is because Hiro is considerably younger and Tadashi just got bunched in with the rest of the adult goons. Stuff like that makes Big Hero 6 incredibly intellectual and rewarding to repeated viewings.
edited 22nd Nov '14 11:39:39 PM by Mattonymy
You are displaying abnormally high compulsions to over-analyze works of fiction and media. Diagnosis: TV Tropes Addiction.For that last part, I actually just assumed that the police assumed Tadashi was the one responsible for the robot betting and that Hiro was thought to be completely innocent because of their ages.
Baymax is the most fascinating character because -unlike with many other robots- you're never quite sure how much of what it does and says is because of its programming, and how sentient its become- even at the end, it could be argued it was just following its protocols. This helps it fulfill its story functions- to be both a plot device (for Hiro's story arc) and a character on its own.
Just saw the movie last night. Loved it. Baymax and Honey Lemon are adorable!
I'd like to call Hiro going off the deep end a kind of Disney moment where you're just going further back into your seat because it's just too much. Like a "donkey scene" or a "destroying the grotto" moment.
"YOU FILTHY SWINE!!! I WILL KEEEEL YOU!!!I wouldn't mind seeing Go Go star in either the next movie or a spinoff. She was easily the Ensemble Dark Horse of the cast for me.
My Tumblr. Currently liveblogging Haruhi Suzumiya and revisiting Danganronpa V3.If they do sequels, I hope they switch up the focus characters. Like, since the first Big Hero 6 movie was already about Hiro and Baymax, the second Big Hero 6 movie could be about Gogo, third could be about Wasabi, etc...
That way, the directors and writers would have a lot of leeway in terms of what they could do for sequels, and we'd have more of an Ensemble Cast feeling for the team.
I'm still calling Go Go "Adult Juniper Lee".
ETA: And now every time my phone tells me its battery's low, I'll be picturing Drunk!Baymax slurring out "Loooow baaaattery".
edited 23rd Nov '14 10:47:38 AM by Twentington
Nope, it's their age, as per the Junior Novel.
I'm still half expecting Go-Go to pull out a giant red scissor sword at any given moment.
Also, considering the early concept art of Big Hero 6 of Honey Lemon◊ to a certain crazed anime character◊, it's not surprising.
You are displaying abnormally high compulsions to over-analyze works of fiction and media. Diagnosis: TV Tropes Addiction.Honestly, if I could give one more Disney film a TV series, this would probably be the one.
................ Man of Action does what now?? I know they created Ben10, but they did something else for Disney??! What??
They created Big Hero 6 (the comics of which the film was based off of)
You are displaying abnormally high compulsions to over-analyze works of fiction and media. Diagnosis: TV Tropes Addiction.'Man of Action'... Is it a comic team, an animation studio or what? I know they made Ben 10.
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edited 23rd Nov '14 6:31:44 PM by edvedd
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They could still be used if they made the movie into a TV series.
Btw, anybody knows how long Callahan's daughter was in the void? I don't recall if they said it on the movie. I know she was on Hypersleep, so it could have been years, but the portal pieces didn't look that old, nor did Callahan or Krey.
Also, I assume the whole "this area is contaminated" thing was just a lie to keep people from finding out what happened at the lab. Surely Baymax would have detected any dangerous pollution. And wasn't it careless to leave records just lying there?
Mattonymy, any info on these in the novel?
edited 22nd Nov '14 8:35:43 AM by Sijo