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Silverfire A girl and her demon cat Since: Nov, 2010
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#1: Jun 13th 2012 at 5:13:12 AM

The description here is simply incorrect. Satire/Parody/Pastiche contains an accurate description of what a pastiche is, but the Pastiche page itself contradicts that. The main difference between the two is that a pastiche doesn't necessarily mock the work it imitates. Many of the examples on the page use the term correctly.

If people agree on this, then all that needs to be done is to rewrite the description and remove examples that don't fit.

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#2: Jun 13th 2012 at 2:11:26 PM

You are 100% correct in your diagnosis and I fully support the proposed solution.

ETA: Though I do wonder about the etymology on the Satire/Parody/Pastiche page—I always thought that "pastiche" was related to "paste", as in, pasting in elements of a work or a creator's style.

edited 13th Jun '12 2:18:15 PM by Xtifr

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#4: Jun 23rd 2012 at 6:41:04 PM

Nope. I was hoping for more feedback, but none ever arrived. Assuming no one objects, maybe I'll plop in a new description later tonight. Then we'll have to look at the examples, to see if anyone was misled by the incorrect description we currently have.

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#6: Jun 24th 2012 at 10:08:11 PM

Whoops, almost forgot about this. Anyway, the new description is up for people to criticize. I didn't bother with a sandbox, since the existing description was simply wrong, and needed to be replaced.

I tossed in the comparison to Fan Fic when I realized that my first draft could be mistaken as talking about fan fic. I also checked what the other wiki had to say, but it didn't tell me much I didn't already know, except for the bit about Lit Fic and Deconstruction.

Haven't had time to check any of the examples yet.

ETA: I also wonder if anyone can suggest some better indexes. It's really not exactly a comedy trope.

ETA 2: after thinking about it, I changed Lit Fic to Academia, which is more accurate.

edited 24th Jun '12 10:32:40 PM by Xtifr

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#7: Jun 25th 2012 at 12:28:14 AM

A-a-and...the examples have been checked, sorted, and folderized, and I found a better index. Aside from the wicks, and possible comments and improvements from the peanut gallery, I think we're good to go.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#8: Jun 25th 2012 at 3:16:17 PM

Wicks checked. Much like the on-page examples, there were more instances of people using the word correctly, despite our old, bad definition, than of the reverse. I corrected what little misuse I found.

Aside: I also did a very minor edit to Homage, which had too much focus on copying, and not enough (i.e. none at all) on the primary meaning of the term: a tribute or honor.

Anyhoo, unless anyone has any last minute comments, I think we're probably done here.

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DoktorvonEurotrash Since: Jan, 2001
#9: Jun 26th 2012 at 1:06:41 AM

Sounds about right. And thank you!

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#10: Jun 26th 2012 at 12:27:13 PM

You're welcome, and thanks in return. Ok, if everyone else is happy, or, at least, happy enough not to complain, should we lock this up?

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