Black Panther

Just finished showing the film to a older relative who was born and raised in Nigeria, as I was very curious to see how he would respond to it. He thought it was great but his nitpicks would be that he didn't find the African accents very convincing, said that he could tell their accents weren't natural from the get go. He also felt the soundtrack, specifically the tribal music, was not as authentic as it could have been. His believes the sequel will revolve around T'challa dealing with the ramifications of truly revealing Wakanda to the world at large. Just an experience I thought I'd share.

I should show this to my parents, as they are also both nigerian.

They don't watch many Superhero movies, so it'd be interesting to see their reaction.

This is an interesting video by Nigerians discussing the politics of Black Panther and what these viewers would do if they were in Wakanda's position of distributing resources to the African diaspora.

Here is one thing which kind of bothered me about the movie: I get that it is made for African Americans, but for god's sake, if Wakanda decides to reach out, there are bigger problems directly in front of its borders. If there were really a country like it, can you imagine how many refugees would flock to its borders?

I'm pretty sure that's been brought up and suggested as a possible sequel idea.

What makes you think they aren't thinking of countries in front of their borders?

Them taking in refugees (and a major villain taking advantage of he situation) is a thing in the comics, and it’s the big story of the villain involved who is in turn one of T’Challa’s biggest enemies, so it’s a safe bet it will be a thing in the future.

Trevor Noah had a cameo in the movie

https://www.themarysue.com/trevor-noah-in-black-panther-gasp/

"A-List celebrity cameos"

A-List celebrity. Trevor Noah. Pick one.

edited 23rd May '18 11:07:45 PM by Eagal

And the award for "Most Inaccurate And Pointlessly Negative Comment" goes to...

To address the actual topic, that's neat, especially since the movie has additional resonance to him as a South African and a Xhosa speaker.

Oh look, how edgy. Bravo. I bet you feel really good about yourself.

Wow, listening to that clip I can't believe I didn't recognize his voice before now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVVS7gsm9N0

A really detailed discussion of the score.

I mean, I'm a huge fan of Trevor Noah (even from before he took over TDS), and I wouldn't consider him A-List. He's great, but he doesn't have a whole lot under his belt.

... then again, Time considered him one of the 100 most influential people of the year. So maybe I'm talking out my ass. But then again, they've listed Trump and Putin as Person of the Year so, you know. Fuck them.

The list isn't about good or bad but influential. Hitler and Mussolini made the list before because of their notability, as did Osama bin Laden. It's debatable whether it was a good idea given Trump's disposition but it's not necessarily an endorsement.

edited 31st May '18 11:07:16 AM by AlleyOop

Samuel L Jackson asked to be in Black Panther – but producers wouldn’t let him

https://www.radiotimes.com/news/film/2018-06-07/black-panther-samuel-l-jackson-nick-fury-sequel-appearance/

I mean, Fury being in Wakanda at that point would be really weird. Like, nonsensical. SHIELD wouldn't have even known about Wakanda and even with Fury's Avengers connections, it's not like the truth of Wakanda was even really known fully to them. Given the entire point of the movie is how incredibly isolationist the country is, them going "and now they have welcomed Nick Fury into their fold" is kinda bonkers.

As much as it pains me to say this, the movie is better for not having Samuel L. Jackson in it.

... what a weird sentence.

Indeed.

Would they? Fury keeps a lot of things hidden.

I recall Iron Man 2 had a map at the end showing Wakanda marked as the location of a super of interest. Granted, it wasn’t established then that Wakanda was keeping its status secret, but it’s still canon as far as we can tell.

My Black Panther story: I got tickets for a matinee showing on my birthday and didn't get any sleep the night before. I drank all the coffee because I didn't want to fall asleep during the movie, and it kinda worked, but I was frustrated and kinda pissed and didn't really enjoy it.

I rewatched it on Blu-ray the other night and, dang, it's actually a really good movie. T'Challa, T'Chaka, M'Baku, and Killmonger are all fascinating characters, and Andy Serkis is such a mad genius I'm kinda bummed they killed off his character even if it made sense. "It's hard for a good man to be king" is such a good line.

Shuri was pretty great too. She's like, what if Dee Dee was Dexter?

I'm half-considering buying the movie now. I still think it's missing a smidge of the typical Marvel charm, but makes up for it by being much smarter than the average Marvel movie.

That’s honestly a very common criticism that I hear from friends of mine. They often say that it feels less like a Marvel film and it doesn’t gel well with the rest of the movies.

Heck, I’ve even heard people say this is more of a Pro-Black Power film than a Marvel movie. Keep in mind these are black people saying this, but it still gets raised eyebrows from me.

It being different from the rest of the MCU films is a bonus for me rather than a detriment. That's part of what makes it special.

That doesn't sound like a bad thing at all, it means it's got a distinct character of its own, rather than falling in line and feeling too samey with the others. Edit: 'd

edited 10th Jun '18 4:49:49 PM by AlleyOop

Honestly, for me, it felt like a Marvel movie turned up to 11. The Marvel charm and humor was there, but every single joke landed, dramatic moments had time to breathe, the action was incredible, especially the Korea scenes, and the ensemble cast absolutely goddamn nailed it.

You got that right.