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 51 peccantis, Thu, 10th Jan '13 4:03:56 AM Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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Well there sure is a trope difference between using bestiality as a tool for conveying creepy deviance and sinister character, seriously, than cracking jokes about farmers loving their nanny goat a bit too much.

I'm mainly concerned that this trope is turning into a catch-all dumping ground for everything even hinting at bestiality.

edited 10th Jan '13 4:05:00 AM by peccantis

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 52 johnnye, Thu, 10th Jan '13 7:30:18 AM from Brighton, UK Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
[up]The basis of that joke is that it's so wrong that only someone really desperate would stoop to it. The deviancy is thus central to the humour, it just wouldn't make sense without it. If it was purely about how lonely they were, A Date with Rosie Palms would be a better punchline, but it's not because that's seen as a less perverted act.

A genuinely separate trope, just for the sake of argument, would be bestiality-for-Rule 34, but I don't think that's a can of worms we really want to be opening.

edited 10th Jan '13 7:32:46 AM by johnnye

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[up][up]Again, I'm not seeing the difference you allude to. "Cracking jokes about farmers loving their nanny goat a bit too much" is "conveying creepy deviance and sinister character", even if it's not meant to be taken seriously.

We don't generally split tropes based on whether it's played straight or played for laughs. In most cases, it's still the same trope, and I believe this is definitely such a case.

[up]Man, I hope your post doesn't inspire someone to head to YKTTW! :)

edited 10th Jan '13 1:40:02 PM by Xtifr

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Agreeing with [up] and [up][up]. The nanny goat joke depends on the implied/assumed depravity. And yes, bestiality porn would probabyl be bestiality played as non-depraved. Not that such a page would be likely to pass the P5 even if somebody did try to YKTTW it.

edited 14th Jan '13 2:35:17 PM by ArcadesSabboth

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Ok, I say again, the trope's been renamed, all the wicks have been fixed. Aside from peccantis's one-sided argument that this isn't a trope, which seem to be going nowhere, are we done here?
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 56 Septimus Heap, Wed, 16th Jan '13 2:41:25 PM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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Yes. I'll request closure.

 57 peccantis, Thu, 17th Jan '13 6:20:42 AM Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
the flies will find you
[up][up] I seem to have been misunderstood. I don't remember this being a non-trope, I was arguing about the examples.
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 58 Septimus Heap, Thu, 17th Jan '13 6:33:10 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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All the examples I found had a strong "this is perverted" sub-tone to them. So we are covered on that line.

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