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Needs Help: Can You Hear Me Now get usage counts

 1 Elbruno, Sat, 21st Apr '12 4:07:24 PM from South Spexico, North Antarctica (Chile) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Heropon very cool!
I've got 2 problems with the trope as it is now:

  • First, it covers 2 very different issues: The nearly ridiculous excuses creators use to make a cellphone that could solve the problem in one go not work; and cellphones that work where they're not supposed too (super cell phones). It may not be that big of a problem, as the page is soft-splitted, but it's still kind of jarring, especially because:
  • The name. From what the article says, it's taken from an advertisement of a phone company. The name makes it sound like this is a stock phrase, not excuses for phone breakdowns nor super cell phones. I had a hard time finding this trope thanks to the name, and I'm sure I must not be the first one.

In my opinion, it could at least use a name that doesn't sound like a stock phrase and also gives a hint on the issues that it covers.

edited 21st Apr '12 4:11:02 PM by Elbruno

"Darkness is light's light of darkness as a dark farewell to dark lightness."
 2 Elbruno, Fri, 18th May '12 3:36:14 PM from South Spexico, North Antarctica (Chile) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Heropon very cool!
Self-bump for feedback.
"Darkness is light's light of darkness as a dark farewell to dark lightness."
 3 Septimus Heap, Fri, 18th May '12 3:39:53 PM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
I think you should just make a rename-or-not crowner by this point. And a split option might also be warranted.

I think I'm in favor of the split, but I'm kind of indifferent about renaming.

I go for the split. The new names are conveniently on the page, and split the examples.
 
 6 Elbruno, Fri, 18th May '12 8:07:32 PM from South Spexico, North Antarctica (Chile) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Heropon very cool!
OK, I did a crowner on this trope. I'm hollering the mods to hook it.
"Darkness is light's light of darkness as a dark farewell to dark lightness."
 7 Willbyr, Fri, 18th May '12 8:38:25 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
CROWNER'S HOOKED!!!

Eeeeeyeah, that's lame. Oh well.
I was the creator of the trope's original page (cell phones never work in horror and comedy movies) and was never satisfied with the way it was lumped in with super cell phones. Needs a split.
 
 9 Donaldthe Potholer, Mon, 2nd Jul '12 12:40:56 AM from Somewhere in (not)Miami
Motion to close current Crowner in favor of both actions and to Open 2 Rename Crowners (1 per Trope)

Preemptive Name Suggestions:

edited 2nd Jul '12 12:42:06 AM by DonaldthePotholer

[up] Seconded. Those names are indictative and catchy.
 
World's Toughest Milkman
Deadly Dead Zone makes me think of the Stephen King novel, The Dead Zone (and the movie and series that followed). The term, in general, applies to more than just phones. The alternative suggestion is fine, though, and I'd recommend that.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 12 lu 127, Sun, 8th Jul '12 10:26:58 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Crowner called.
迷子の足音消えた 代わりに祈りの唄
 13 Elbruno, Mon, 9th Jul '12 8:38:57 AM from South Spexico, North Antarctica (Chile) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Heropon very cool!
I like Super Strong Cell Reception and Cell Phones Are Useless.
"Darkness is light's light of darkness as a dark farewell to dark lightness."
Is it possible to link two rename crowners to the same thread at the same time?

Also, will one or both of these tropes have to go through YKTTW?

 15 lu 127, Tue, 10th Jul '12 2:43:49 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Is it possible to link two rename crowners to the same thread at the same time?

I have no way to do that.
迷子の足音消えた 代わりに祈りの唄
I'd start by taking Super Strong Cell Reception to YKTTW as a soft split, then someone can rename the page to Cell Phones Are Useless after that's done.

Bump. Anything?
 
 18 DracMonster, Sat, 20th Oct '12 9:38:18 AM Relationship Status: Singularity
Nature Abhors A Cell Phone (Pun on Nature abhors a vacuum) for when cell phones are always convenient victims of a disaster.

edited 20th Oct '12 9:42:13 AM by DracMonster

 19 lu 127, Sat, 1st Dec '12 3:46:14 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Clocking to move.
迷子の足音消えた 代わりに祈りの唄
 20 Donaldthe Potholer, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 10:11:56 PM from Somewhere in (not)Miami
The few times that I've looked at this Trope, I've always been stalled at the "Aversions" category. The all-over-the-map nature of these is a key reason why I haven't done this myself. (Another is that I'm supposed to be working on my Thesis and not on Tropes, but that's neither here nor there.)

Perhaps we should YKTTW both Subtropes and leave the current page, with listed aversions, as a Super Trope page.

EDIT: Never mind the above. YKTTW for Super Strong Cell Reception, and all it took from the Aversions section were two Film entries.

edited 3rd Dec '12 10:29:18 PM by DonaldthePotholer

 21 Donaldthe Potholer, Mon, 10th Dec '12 11:10:34 AM from Somewhere in (not)Miami
It's been a few days, so I feel justified for the double.

Especially since I just made the rename crowner for what will be left of the page after we launch Super Strong Cell Reception:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/crowner.php/AlternativeTitles/CanYouHearMeNow

By the way, can I just go ahead and launch Super Strong Cell Reception, since it's been almost a week with no further response? This would allow us to remove the respective section.

 22 lu 127, Mon, 10th Dec '12 11:17:24 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Crowner hooked.
迷子の足音消えた 代わりに祈りの唄
Can we add something about the same thing happening while you're doing something other than calling? Like texting, surfing the web, using an app... A lot you can do on a smartphone.
 
Bumping for votes.

World's Toughest Milkman
This is starting to look like a runaway. :)
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.

Alternative Titles: Can You Hear Me Now
10th Dec '12 11:06:21 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the name will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of Crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative names.
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