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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#1: Mar 31st 2012 at 11:07:30 PM

Basically, the Texas Supreme Court overruled the Texas Public Beaches Act by saying home owners can keep their land even if the beach line reaches into their land due to erosion from tropical storms/hurricanes.

On one hand, this protects the homeowners from having their land and homes condemned and forced to be sold to the State.

On the other hand, this means less public beach for people to go to and less leeway for the state to restore or clean beaches.

One good thing (for some people) is that the Texas land office won't be spending anymore money on beach renourishment on the West End of Galveston Island.

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#2: Apr 1st 2012 at 7:53:35 AM

I'm cool with this. It's not like Mother Nature gives a flying pig about our laws anyway, so I'm not in favor of punishing people for something that's out of their control.

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#3: Apr 1st 2012 at 7:54:44 AM

To be fair to the other side, though, this also means a lot of idiots with some money are going to build their beachhouses in the perfect spot for them to fall down due to erosion.

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#4: Apr 1st 2012 at 10:16:56 PM

[up]Well, that's their problem if they build their houses in an area they know have a problem. Anyway, I'm generally for things that help preserve beaches/environment and what not, but if the state wants to turn someone's property into public property then they really should compensate the the homeowners appropriately. The way the article phrases it makes it sound like they were just kicking people out of their houses when the coast line changed.

Vehudur Since: Mar, 2012
#5: Apr 1st 2012 at 10:32:35 PM

It's their problem until they start asking the government for money, then it's everyone's problem.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#6: Apr 1st 2012 at 10:49:36 PM

And then we can laugh at their homeless asses. Or is that too cruel?

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AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#7: Apr 1st 2012 at 10:54:53 PM

If the government wants to buy someone's land, then the landowners do have the right to demand appropriate compensation for the current worth of the land. And the government certainly doesn't have the right to go around kicking people out of their homes for reasons beyond man's ultimate control.

Plus, I'm pretty sure that things like this can't be applied retroactively, so I don't think suing the government would win anything for anyone.

And also, I'm fairly certain you can't ask the government for money for your house falling down due to erosion. That's what home insurance is for. All a landowner could ask would be the current worth of the land.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#8: Apr 2nd 2012 at 2:28:04 AM

This has me wondering if someone will try a Lex Luthor scheme and buy a lot of land that isn't on the beachfront, but will be soon.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#9: Apr 2nd 2012 at 3:27:59 PM

Well, unless they're going to try and bomb a crapload of shit it's going to have to be a longterm plan. Mother Nature doesn't always work as fast as you'd like and does not care about your profit margins.

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#10: Apr 4th 2012 at 8:10:26 AM

Whatever happened to eminent domain? I thought that was an established legal principle.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#11: Apr 4th 2012 at 9:45:07 PM

What about it? If it's been nerfed, it probably has to do with abuse.

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TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
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#12: Apr 5th 2012 at 4:49:33 AM

Oh yeah, eminent domain definitely gets abused. If I recall, most commonly it's by police districts using sales of the seized property to get extra funding. I'll try to dig up one of the articles I read about it when I have time.

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