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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#5251: Mar 6th 2024 at 10:13:45 AM

I mean, I guess there are differing opinion on what "Far-Left" means? I for one don't see being a Socialist by itself as Far-Left.

"Far-Left", just like "Far-Right", means extremism and anti-democratic tendencies for me, not simply being on the left side of the spectrum.

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#5252: Mar 6th 2024 at 10:22:50 AM

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Yeah, no. I'm pretty socialism is considered to be far-left on our political spectrum.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Mar 6th 2024 at 7:24:04 PM

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prinzessinnen-und-raben from Germany Since: Jun, 2023
#5253: Apr 14th 2024 at 12:54:50 AM

Cross-posting from the LGBTQ+ thread on Yack Fest:

This Friday, Germany has passed a law that allows trans, inter, and non-binary people to change their official gender entry (or whatever you call that) by simply giving a statement to the administration. The new "Selbstbestimmungsgesetz" (self-determination act) replaces the old "Transsexuellengesetz" that had people jump through a lot of bureaucratic hoops, get officially stamped expert's opinions from two different psychologists, and a court ruling. This will no longer be necessary in the future.

Note that this law is only concerned with what gender you are in the official paperwork, not with what you do with your body (e.g. hrt, surgery). There are different laws for that.

Source (in German): https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/selbstbestimmungsgesetz-bundestag-102.html

I have heard other things about the law, both in the originally proposed form and what was decided about in the end. Some genius thought it was a good idea to give the personal data of people changing their name and gender entry to law enforcement as a preventive measure (preventing what exactly?), because as we all know, German police and secret service are so great with the personal data of marginalized groups. Last I heard, they patched this out. But I don't have a source for that.

Additional context that I put in for the other thread, probably not that necessary here: the current federal government is a coalition of social democrats, free democrats (a.k.a. neoliberals), and greens. Parliament also has conservatives, far-right, left, and a recently-formed splinter group of the left. The next federal election is in 2025, with the possibility of a new government and parliament less favorable of a law to help queer people.

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#5254: Apr 14th 2024 at 1:36:47 AM

Some genius thought it was a good idea to give the personal data of people changing their name and gender entry to law enforcement as a preventive measure (preventing what exactly?)

People changing gender or name in order to escape arrest, I guess.

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prinzessinnen-und-raben from Germany Since: Jun, 2023
#5255: Apr 14th 2024 at 2:03:18 AM

Yes, that was probably the idea behind it. But how many criminals on the run - or people planning to commit a crime that will put them on the run - think about officially filing for a new gender entry? Is this number high enough to justify keeping a list of everyone using that law as a preventive measure? Does the police keep lists of people changing their name for any other reason, like marriage?

It's just very "German bureaucracy logic".

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#5256: Apr 14th 2024 at 3:33:11 AM

I think that name changes are generally recorded somewhere so that if someone is wanted under their old that can be tracked to their new name.

I think there’s a point to be made that identity change records should be held as a collective without the reason for the change listed, as there’s no really a need to know why someone changed identity, just what they changed from and to.

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prinzessinnen-und-raben from Germany Since: Jun, 2023
#5257: Apr 14th 2024 at 4:59:30 AM

I think that name changes are generally recorded somewhere so that if someone is wanted under their old that can be tracked to their new name.

Somewhere as in, somewhere at the city administration that keeps birth records, marriage records and so on, yes, that's pretty normal. My sarcasm was for the idea to involve law enforcement in the process, preemptively, just because someone changes their entry. - But as I said, I don't have a source for what was decided on in the end, just heard that they dropped that part.

I think it's a good thing that we got this new law. The German government actually getting stuff done, the parliamentary process working as it should, and the law in question making life easier for people - I wish we had news like this more often.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#5258: Apr 29th 2024 at 7:57:57 AM

Over 1000 Islamists have been marching in the city of Hamburg, sadly yet again hijacking general protests against Israel

https://www.yahoo.com/news/german-interior-minister-hamburg-islamist-152904352.html?guccounter=1

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