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DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
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#26: Feb 27th 2012 at 4:25:54 PM

[up]I thought Jive Turkey was specifically about black "hip", "street" characters using weird slang, but the current article doesn't seem to mention the ethnic stereotype aspect, so maybe that has been changed.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#27: Feb 27th 2012 at 4:53:01 PM

Well that trope might have to go through TRS later.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#28: Mar 5th 2012 at 8:52:37 AM

Here's what I propose in more detail:

  • Clean up examples and wicks. Failed slang is Jive Turkey and should be corrected. Simply using slang at all is not a trope (so far) and should be deleted as an example.
  • Rename the trope, and expand it to any attempt to "connect with the youth" other than just marketing and advertising, which the page currently limits it to.
  • Make a Trope Transplant and move the name to a trope about the "cool culture" of much of The '80s and some of The '90s. It can overlap with the current trope though.

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pawsplay Since: Jan, 2001
#29: Mar 5th 2012 at 10:52:22 AM

That sounds pretty tidy to me.

DrStarky Okay Guy from Corn And Pig Land Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
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#30: Mar 5th 2012 at 7:43:13 PM

How does Down With Todays Youth sound?

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DrStarky Okay Guy from Corn And Pig Land Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
Okay Guy
#31: Mar 8th 2012 at 4:01:00 PM

Hello?

Am I the only one who thinks Down With Todays Youth is a good title?

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abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#32: Mar 8th 2012 at 4:37:34 PM

Sounds pretty good. Maybe "kids" instead of "youth"?

lebrel Tsundere pet. from Basement, Ivory Tower Since: Oct, 2009
Tsundere pet.
#33: Mar 8th 2012 at 4:39:55 PM

[up] Nah, Down With Todays Youth has that certain ring of total cluelessness that the trope so often implies.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#34: Mar 8th 2012 at 4:47:02 PM

Yeah, if there isn't a snappier name, I agree that we go with that suggestion.

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abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#35: Mar 8th 2012 at 5:02:37 PM

[up][up] Ah, I didn't think of that.

Yeah, I'm good with that name.

DrStarky Okay Guy from Corn And Pig Land Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
Okay Guy
#36: Mar 8th 2012 at 5:18:44 PM

Should we skip the single prop crowner? I don't want to rush into things, but we have objectively proven the name to not work and no one seems to be opposing renaming it.

If we are using a crowner, we should prolly get it hooked tonight.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#37: Mar 8th 2012 at 5:43:38 PM

Well I'd like a page action crowner about whether a Trope Transplant is okay.

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