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Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#2226: Jun 16th 2017 at 9:09:56 AM

It's sickening how normalized corporate evil is these days. Take-Two is completely out of line and years of precedent can easily prove that in court. But Open Four's creators know they're not rich enough to afford doing it, so Take-Two gets to have its ILLEGAL copyright claim, simply because corporations are so fucking powerful they can do whatever they want completely unchallenged.

In a world not run by mega corps straight out of cyberpunk such an out-of-line piece of shit incoherent letter would have been thrown out along with those who came up with it, but no, we don't live in such a world.

edited 16th Jun '17 9:15:23 AM by Luminosity

carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
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#2227: Jun 16th 2017 at 9:28:44 AM

Rockstar released a statement trying to quell the flames a bit, claiming the modding engine Take 2 targeted was being used by cheat developers. Review bombers are out in full force, so we'll see if they cane and do a 180 in a few days/weeks.

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
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#2228: Jun 16th 2017 at 10:26:09 AM

This almost deserves its own Jimquisition.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
mrsunshinesprinkles Forever Gorgeous from Somewhere, crying Since: Jan, 2012
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#2229: Jun 16th 2017 at 11:11:10 AM

That's the best and anyone who disagrees can fuck off

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Thelastwarrior Since: Jun, 2017
#2230: Jun 16th 2017 at 4:52:28 PM
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#2231: Jun 16th 2017 at 4:56:44 PM

What bothers me isn't even Konami basically becoming a pachinko and mobile company. That's disappointing and upsetting, but whatever, money money money.

What I find repulsive is that in addition to that, by all accounts, they are a poorly managed company, a petty company that makes its current employees feel worthless and is spiteful to old employees who leave to pursue better opportunities. They don't have any respect for the legacy of their company or the achievements of the people that actually made them successful, like Igarashi, Kojima, Yamaoka, etc.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#2232: Jun 16th 2017 at 5:09:49 PM

> Is it ethically wrong to hope that an ex Kon hires people to carry out a hit on Konamis board of directors.

yes, calling for an assassination attempt on some people is morally wrong

edited 16th Jun '17 5:12:07 PM by Ultimatum

New theme music also a box
Thelastwarrior Since: Jun, 2017
#2233: Jun 16th 2017 at 5:11:03 PM
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#2234: Jun 16th 2017 at 6:28:39 PM

I'm sorry if I came off as extreme it's just inhumane treatment like that angers me.

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
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#2235: Jun 16th 2017 at 8:31:13 PM

You guys might want to pay more attention to the Two Worlds II thing, because the dev is firing shots back at Jim...with really bad English.

Very funny the guy this Jim - but he forgot to mention, that we also added achievements and trading cards to a game from 2011. ~ and all because the users wanted us to do this. However - his promotion now was definitly worth to remove the console. Let him get 5 Mio views and we can put the console back.

Defend? - sure - we added Trading Cards, Achievents, and Microtransactions because we have been asked to do by hundreds of users (please read this forum). And we removed the console, because it is recommended.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
NesClassic Inheritor of the Wing from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#2236: Jun 16th 2017 at 8:40:44 PM

Waiwaiwait. I'm... sorry.

Define "removed the console" for me. Removed the console version from console stores? Is that what that means?

I'm mostly just confused right now. But, uh, if people were legitimately asking them for microtransactions then... may as well add them, I guess? Confused shrug?
...I got nothing. At least the original explanation of "why not" had some degree of honesty you had to commend them for, though.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#2237: Jun 16th 2017 at 8:51:32 PM

I think they mean removing the console commands from the PC version? Since keeping them in when you add microtransactions would be stupid.

As for adding achievements and trading cards... Well seeing how trading cards are racket Steam Greenlight shit shovelers used when making asset flips, I don't think that it's much of an achievement.

edited 16th Jun '17 8:53:51 PM by Ghilz

Thelastwarrior Since: Jun, 2017
#2238: Jun 17th 2017 at 6:05:08 PM

At least with modern warfare remastered the incredibly flimsy argument could be made that its "technically a new game" but here there's no excuse.

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#2239: Jun 18th 2017 at 6:35:09 AM

Adding achievements and trading cards is one thing. Tons of games get them added later. I can see people asking for those, so I don't see an issue there. Microtransactions though...who actually wants those?

But this is mostly part of the really strange pattern the developer has with the game, where they keep updating it like it's a smash hit that still has a ton of buzz and the audience basically just goes "Oh yeah, that game exists." (Goes back to playing something else.)

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optimusjamie Since: Jun, 2010
TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
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#2241: Jun 19th 2017 at 1:12:20 PM

Also, someone compiled this.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
Thelastwarrior Since: Jun, 2017
#2242: Jun 19th 2017 at 2:50:56 PM

Whether cringy awesome or occasionally legitimately funny E3 is always memorable.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#2243: Jun 19th 2017 at 2:52:35 PM

I don't think Memorable is the word. Like, without looking it up, tell me about E3 2001 as an event. Don't think most people would.

"Remarkable" maybe.

edited 19th Jun '17 2:53:06 PM by Ghilz

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#2244: Jun 19th 2017 at 10:29:30 PM

[up]Wasn't the Nintendo Gamecube presented at E3 2001 or something like that?

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#2245: Jun 20th 2017 at 5:15:14 AM

The console was announced as the Nintendo Game Cube at a press conference in Japan on August 24, 2000

But I rest my case :)

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#2246: Jun 20th 2017 at 6:47:49 AM

[up]I said "presented," not "announced." Bit of a difference there: "presented" means the console was shown during the event and not necessarily first revealed.

Anyways, I'm really not the sort of person you ask to recall any details about E3. I didn't start paying attention to E3 until the 2010s, and even then, the only real presentation I pay attention to is Nintendo's; the others I just watch the trailers for their games when they get uploaded onto YouTube.

edited 20th Jun '17 7:42:41 AM by dragonfire5000

Thelastwarrior Since: Jun, 2017
#2247: Jun 20th 2017 at 5:48:10 PM

But yeah devolved digitalis press conference was the best part.

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
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#2248: Jun 21st 2017 at 2:19:39 PM

And now, the D&D show that never was.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
MainManJ Since: Jan, 2001
#2249: Jun 22nd 2017 at 5:49:03 AM

Damn, that Devolver Digital press conference was pretty hardcore. I'm surprised they were allowed to do that. It's like if the guys behind the Lego Movie and Lego Batman were allowed to do an E3 press conference.

As for Take Two:

It's sickening how normalized corporate evil is these days. Take-Two is completely out of line and years of precedent can easily prove that in court. But Open Four's creators know they're not rich enough to afford doing it, so Take-Two gets to have its ILLEGAL copyright claim, simply because corporations are so fucking powerful they can do whatever they want completely unchallenged. In a world not run by mega corps straight out of cyberpunk such an out-of-line piece of shit incoherent letter would have been thrown out along with those who came up with it, but no, we don't live in such a world.

Yeah, I'm going to have to agree with you on that. It's times like these that I feel 100% morally justified in referring to big, greedy corporations like that as "the thieves". Because that's what they are and that's what they do. They're thieves. They steal from their paying customers. And it is stealing. Not stealing requires consent. And that paying customer base didn't give consent.

I've been binge re watching my way through the entirety of the Jimquisiton, including the pre-Patreon days, and it's morbidly amusing but also kinda depressing to see how much WORSE the industry has gotten when it comes to, well, as Jim might say, being greedy tossers who are taking the piss. Hell, Jim used to be positive towards DLC, free-to-play, Amiibo and even microtransations. It's kinda insane to think of at this point.

Also, I've got a confession to make. "Stress" grew on me. I like it now.

edited 22nd Jun '17 5:49:46 AM by MainManJ

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#2250: Jun 22nd 2017 at 7:53:29 AM

Still think it's a bad version of a good song, though I do really like the new crazy circus branding.

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