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Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#2876: Nov 26th 2017 at 1:32:11 PM

Make it into? Overwatch is one of the core progenitors of this bullshit.

It is.

But it plays safe and doesn't do anything that obvious.

I fear that might change.

edited 26th Nov '17 1:32:33 PM by Luminosity

TAPETRVE from The city of Vlurxtrznbnaxl Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
#2877: Nov 26th 2017 at 3:24:51 PM

It already takes bloody ages to level up for a measly single lootbox in Overwatch. Don't think they can make the system much worse at this point.

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#2878: Nov 26th 2017 at 3:32:19 PM

I level up at a decent rate. I really doubt they are going to make the game Pay to Win, especially because it's already going well for the OW devs to suddenly pull an Activision on us.

Insert the cosmetic argument here. In short, i think OW is safe for now.

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TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#2879: Nov 26th 2017 at 8:19:20 PM

[up]Overwatch is produced by Activision. So...

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#2880: Nov 27th 2017 at 9:08:26 AM

Is Steam improved since Direct came out? Short answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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#2881: Nov 27th 2017 at 9:16:23 AM

It never was an improvement. All Valve did was focus on the abuse devs did with Greenlight and nothing else. There's no regulation, no actual human beings overlooking the games being shoved through the door unless enough people complain about it, and no reason to give a fuck when people will throw money at you just to be with PC's biggest video game platform.

Valve developed a cult following over a few games they made and for making Steam good back then. Between that and Valve being super indie friendly, no one wants to turn against them and no one wants to call them out for being lazy as fuck (in general, not the people who are actively calling Valve out). Unlike EA and the rest, Valve hasn't really suffered any major PR disasters and I don't see one happening any time soon.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#2882: Nov 27th 2017 at 9:19:30 AM

Valve being super indie friendly

Which is hilarious in light of this video and the previous being about indy devs fleeing from Steam to Nintendo because Steam is such a shit show.

JerekLaz Since: Jun, 2014
#2883: Nov 27th 2017 at 9:22:38 AM

[up] The way they do it is they bunker up and respond to NO ONE - plus there doesn't seem to be any reliable way to actually communicate with them.

So this has a weird effect of even LEGISLATORS struggling to get anything out of them (See the whole kerfuffle around the EU and Valve in antitrust stuff. It's the same with google - no easy contact methods.

With Valve though, the fact that they just don't even comment on things means that fuel to the fire doesn't get fed except by other commentators.... which doesn't ADD much more than "yeah, we know."

Anyway, Jim is great as usual.

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#2884: Nov 27th 2017 at 9:27:47 AM

I should have said WAS indie friendly, but it's still an image that the majority sees Valve as. Thankfully, a lot of the more level headed indie devs are seeing Steam for what it really is.

And great point, Laz. Valve is notorious with no communication. They're too afraid of pissing off the wrong people, so they figure it's best to say nothing or play it completely safe. Didn't Valve also go *shrug* when people demanded them to do something about the rampant gambling in CS: GO?

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#2885: Nov 28th 2017 at 9:23:51 AM

TL:Dr the Lobbying begins

edited 28th Nov '17 9:25:32 AM by Ghilz

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#2886: Nov 28th 2017 at 11:20:22 AM

"Gamers under fire"...

Yeah, it's obvious what their intentions are.

This might work on the US, seeing how easily their government is manipulated by corporate lobbyists, but I wonder how this might impact EU/Australia legislation.

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#2887: Nov 28th 2017 at 11:33:08 AM

I don't think they care much about Australia.

The EU, on the other hand, that's a market they'll want to reach out to.

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Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#2889: Nov 28th 2017 at 5:40:19 PM

I knew it.

Although if this is what they're doing instead of hiring real lobbyists the same way every other hopelessly corrupt industry does... maybe it won't help them.

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#2890: Nov 28th 2017 at 5:42:34 PM

By the way, after all this EA has lost 3 billion in stock.

edited 28th Nov '17 5:43:01 PM by Draghinazzo

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#2891: Nov 28th 2017 at 5:46:49 PM

EA’s day of reckoning my ass

Sorry,it's the hyperbolic titles tend to annoy me

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Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#2892: Nov 29th 2017 at 7:00:33 AM

Extruding Assholes are seriously claming the lootboxes aren't just cosmetic because a bunch of cosmetic items would "violate Star Wars canon".

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#2894: Nov 29th 2017 at 7:15:49 AM

EA might be a shitty company but they always provide hilarious jokes.

Keep up the good work EA.

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#2895: Nov 29th 2017 at 7:16:48 AM

Cosmetic items wouldn’t be canon? Did they see Queen Amidala?

Not Three Laws compliant.
Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#2896: Nov 29th 2017 at 7:18:39 AM

[up] No, that'd require watching Episode 1. And even EA doesn't deserve that.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#2897: Nov 29th 2017 at 7:38:06 AM

God they could do so much cosmetic stuff...

  • paint jobs for the stormtrooper armor like Republic Commando
  • Different skins for the heroes such as Hoth Luke
  • Unit decals such as the Rogue Squadron patch
  • unlockable races
etc etc.

Diving into non-canon stuff is what Star Wars fans love too, they could easily dive into Legends for various costumes and clones of characters like a Kyle Katarn skin using Luke’s moveset and stats or bring in models from Tie Fighter as skins for the generic TI Es.

But still.... sigh.... EA just doesn’t get it. We will never get a good star wars game ever again.

edited 29th Nov '17 7:42:36 AM by Memers

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#2898: Nov 29th 2017 at 7:52:09 AM

And while Pink Darth Vader isn't a thing... White Darth Vader is.

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#2900: Nov 29th 2017 at 8:07:04 AM

This is all rather funny given a dataminer recently found a bunch of dummied out cosmetics already in the game.

So add that to the list of problems with EA's argument about not being able to do a bunch of cosmetics.

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