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Beed28 Since: Dec, 2011
#1: Feb 6th 2012 at 2:55:08 AM

The current picture on the page needs to be in a better quality, as there are artifacts visible, notably near Mario's fireballs and around Bowser. And where did the axe go anyway?

If we were to replace it with a better quality image without artifacts, should it be taken from World 8-4, where Bowser is also throwing hammers? Like here, for example.

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#2: Feb 6th 2012 at 4:13:27 AM

[up] Where are you seeing artifacts?

That being said, I do like the suggested pic better if we're going to stick with the same game.

Beed28 Since: Dec, 2011
#3: Feb 6th 2012 at 5:19:24 AM

[up] It's a JPEG image, which means if you copy it into an image editor and zoom in, the blury artifacts become more clear.

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#4: Feb 6th 2012 at 5:36:04 AM

I see the new suggestion as just an improvement of the same picture, as it's similar enough.

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#5: Feb 6th 2012 at 5:57:44 AM

[up][up] Ah, I see...generally speaking, when we're talking about artifacting as a problem in IP threads, it's at a level that doesn't require zooming in to notice.

I'm fine to swap the pics and call this good; yea/nay?

edited 6th Feb '12 5:58:19 AM by Willbyr

Beed28 Since: Dec, 2011
#6: Feb 6th 2012 at 6:42:42 AM

[up] I, at least, can see the artifacts around Mario's fireballs and Bowser without having to zoom in.

Yeah, I'm fine if it's replaced. If anyone's curious, here's the image in question:

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#7: Feb 6th 2012 at 9:56:51 AM

The compression artifacts are acceptable, but NES screenshots should really be in GIF or PNG format anyway.

edited 6th Feb '12 9:57:07 AM by Stratadrake

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KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#8: Feb 6th 2012 at 10:55:10 AM

You people must have perfect vision because I don't see any artifacts

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#9: Feb 6th 2012 at 11:06:47 AM

I can see them. They're faint, due to how Super Mario Bros. is generally simplistic in its artwork, but it's there. Having seen pixel art saved to JPG several times before makes it easier to spot, at any rate.

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#10: Feb 6th 2012 at 11:41:08 AM

Kaiser: Zoom in (like 10x) on Bowser's mug and you'll notice various shades of green pixels where there should only be one. That's a compression artifact.

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#11: Mar 2nd 2012 at 6:08:18 AM

Bump...can someone swap the current for the OP suggestion so we can wrap this up?

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#12: Mar 2nd 2012 at 6:13:55 AM

Swap.

Worse than artifacts, to my mind, is the inexplicable missing axe. That is enough to make me want to swap.

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#13: Mar 5th 2012 at 7:40:35 PM

How's that?(personally thinks the one there already is fine)

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#14: Mar 5th 2012 at 7:53:16 PM

[up] Sorry to say, but I'm afraid that it's worse than what's already up there. Here's why: it's shrunken (the NES outputs at 224-256 pixels in height; that image is 194), and it's still a JPEG, which, as gone over before, introduces tons of visual artifacts that simply do not belong in pixel art like this - combined, the problem is exacerbated, and now there are more artifacts than there were before. I also don't like how the logo was tossed in at the top, since I don't think it really adds anything to the image (it'd be potholed to the source, generally, making it a moot point).

The image suggested in the OP, however, is fine - it maintains the correct resolution, and saves it into a file format that can preserve original art without introducing any compression artifacts. I'd just run with that, honestly.

EDIT: Actually, Willbyr basically said go ahead and swap it - so I'm gonna do just that.

EDIT 2: Image swapped. I didn't leave the usual "don't change this image" comment/disclaimer, considering this is basically the same image as was already up there, just in higher-quality. If you still think it's worth one, though, be my guest.

edited 5th Mar '12 7:58:34 PM by ShadowHog

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#15: Mar 5th 2012 at 8:42:15 PM

Yeah, since we've changed the image it's best to include the tag, which is now in place. Good work, everyone. Locking up.

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