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Deadlock Clock: May 26th 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
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#1: Jan 31st 2012 at 1:29:36 PM

The image for Capulet Counterpart does not show the love affair nor the switching sides - just a woman with angel wings looking ~dramatically~ at the sky. Had it not been for the caption I wouldn't even have known it was Juliet.

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#2: Jan 31st 2012 at 1:46:54 PM

Definitely need a new pic.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#3: Jan 31st 2012 at 2:03:17 PM

Isn't she not even an example?

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
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#4: Jan 31st 2012 at 2:48:49 PM

That picture confuses me as to what the trope actually is.

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tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#5: Jan 31st 2012 at 2:53:12 PM

Assuming that's the trope namer, then no, she's not an example. At least, I've never heard of the Capulets being regarded as the villains and the Montagues as the heroes.

Is this trope just "significant character who does a Face–Heel Turn"? That's going to be hard to picture.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#6: Jan 31st 2012 at 2:59:50 PM

[up] I don't think so, different in that she is not a villain, which would be High-Heel–Face Turn. More like starts on the heel "side" and turns to the face "side", no change of heart.

No, villain might be overstating it, but the Capulets are definitely the antagonists. (Consider Mercutio.) I mean, the trope is "a character that is, in certain specific ways, like Juliet"... not "a character that is Juliet".

Oh, hm, it would hard to be more like something than being that thing, of course she is an example. But the image is still just a face :P

edited 31st Jan '12 3:18:28 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Feb 1st 2012 at 1:49:59 PM

More like starts on the heel "side" and turns to the face "side", no change of heart.

So it's a character who's sympathetic from the start, but begins the story on the villains' side before switching? I still don't see how that describes Juliet. (Which makes the current caption surprisingly apropos, if we ignore the comma.)

That's still going to be tough to illustrate.

MangaManiac Since: Aug, 2010
#8: Feb 1st 2012 at 1:53:55 PM

Laconic: "A non-evil female character who works for the villains but defects to the good guys, usually after falling in love with The Hero."

...Does Juliet actually join the Montagues? I mean, yes, she marries Romeo; but, she doesn't have any interaction with any of the others. She doesn't join them any more than she stops being a Capulet. Hell, it's Romeo who goes up to Tybalt and tries to be all family-like with him.*

edited 1st Feb '12 1:55:29 PM by MangaManiac

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#9: Feb 2nd 2012 at 1:06:46 PM

She joins the protagonist. Isn't that what matters?

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#10: Feb 2nd 2012 at 1:09:41 PM

The other protagonist. She kinda is one :P

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#11: Feb 2nd 2012 at 1:49:05 PM

This feels like the thread should be moved to Trope Repair Shop now, since we're talking about Trope Namer instead of just the page image.

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#12: Feb 2nd 2012 at 3:44:46 PM

[up] I think you're right.

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#13: Feb 3rd 2012 at 9:11:24 AM

The image still needs discussion. It's JAFAAC. Any TRS thread can be made later.

rjrya395 Since: Aug, 2010
#14: Mar 17th 2012 at 6:14:40 PM

Bump. (Anyone got a better picture?)

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#15: Mar 18th 2012 at 3:11:53 AM

The image is nonillustrative (even though I've seen the film), and the caption shouldn't have a comma.

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#16: Apr 8th 2012 at 2:11:43 PM

Pulled per the above discussion:

Wherefore art thou Trope Namer?*

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#18: May 28th 2012 at 7:15:47 PM

Clock's up; locking for inactivity/lack of consensus. No further action is to be taken based on this thread.

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