All-Purpose Nasuverse Fanfiction Thread

I actually have looked at that page, and glanced at the wiki as well to check, so I was pretty sure that I was good, but I wasn't 100% sure.

I am surprised that no one's gone for it yet.

I'm not all that shocked.

Mostly because the one chapter of FGO that was gonna be about the Middle East wound up featuring the omnicidal lunatic ruling Camelot and the dumbass knights who couldn't figure out their King had gone bufguck crazy, an Egyptian crazy man who could survive with his head cutoff and his side chick, a bunch of assassins who are actually kinda nice when you get to know them, Arash the Megabro and of course, the great spectacle that was Chaldea's interference trying, and failing, to do more than temporarily annoy Scar.

edited 23rd Feb '17 6:58:21 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

And the fun that was the Davincimobile.

Okay, now I'm going to be extremely silly, and say that Scheherazade should have the power to do something like this:

I think your proposed Servant's NP is rather similar to William Shakespeare's.

Hmm...so it would seem.

Still, I'm sure we could find a way to make it unique.

So I've been toying around with a crossover where Shirou ends up on Remnant and joining Team RWBY.

I've already got some ideas laid out for his backstory. Kiritsugu actually decided to teach him magecraft and this, possibly combined with other things, ended up in a Fifth Holy Grail War that was a combination of all three routes. Shirou and Saber still fall in love like in the Fate route, Shirou has a large conflict with EMIYA like in the UBW route, and all the tragedy of the Heaven's Feel route still happens (although colored by the previous stuff). The end result is Shirou cursing his world as he blasts the Greater Grail and the Grail basically granting his wish to not be here anymore and transporting him to Remnant.

On Remnant, Shirou's arrival is noticed possibly through some sort of detection system and a Qrow is sent to investigate. He locates Shirou and reports to Ozpin who decides to place Shirou under his care. When Shirou wakes up, they talk, Ozpin leans what Shirou went through, Shirou proves some of his claims via his thaumaturgy, Ozpin's like "Hey, join Beacon and become a Huntsman", and Shirou's like "Bitchin. How do?". Yadda yadda yadda, stuff happens, he's now a free agent in Beacon's freshman year and is usually assigned to Teams RWBY and JNPR.

My thing is that I'm unsure exactly how to balance Shirou. He needs to be strong enough to be useful but not so strong that he could kick the ass of everyone in the show. Him having Archer's arm is obviously right out because then no one would be a threat to him but, beyond that, I'm unsure. After all, he has numerous options to one shot that big bad Grimm dragon that everyone's wary of and Cinder's ass is grass the instant he Traces something like Caliburn or even Monohoshizao. There's just no way they could keep up with his borrowed strength, speed, and skill. Couple that with him getting his Aura unlocked, making moving at such speeds a hell of a lot easier and less dangerous, and he's going to be hard to take down. And, of course, nothing we've seen on Remnant could survive if he deploys UBW.

What do you guys think?

I think Rule Breaker would probably fuck up Cinder's day arguably worse than if he just went for something damaging.

edited 27th Feb '17 12:49:43 PM by doineedaname

Rule Breaker dissolves magical contracts. Unless he's held together by magical contracts, it won't even scratch him because Rule Breaker is a horrible weapon.

Cinder's a chick.

I'm not entirely sure. Rule Breaker has the power to dissolve all contracts and, thus, magecraft. Since the Maiden powers are explicitly magic (I think), that would mean that it might seriously mess up her but, like I said, I'm not too sure. Besides, Shirou going to own on her with Caliburn would be more awesome and, thus, is the better choice.

Would Rule Breaker be able to ignore Aura? According to the writers, it's apparently not magic but rather a manifestation of one's soul (which sure sounds like magic to me) so I'm not sure.

edited 27th Feb '17 1:19:03 PM by Zelenal

I was thinking Cinderblock for some reason. Derp.

Anyway, point is, Rule Breaker dissolves magical contracts. It'll fuck up magic, but it's literally useless as a weapon otherwise.

You know, the more I think about it, the more I realize that, unless I just take away UBW completely (or at least the NPs which would make it almost worthless), Shirou is just too OP for RWBY. At least on the student level.

Maybe changing the idea to be that Shirou is explicitly working for Ozpin because of his power and versatility but was placed in Beacon both to keep an eye on Ruby and to hone his skills in fighting Grimm would be a better idea. Basically going the route A Demon Lord's Hero did.

Ironically, there is a way you can take away UBW.

Archer's Arm. If he uses UBW with Archer's Arm too much, he literally becomes a statue made of swords. So, yeah, that's how you take away Shirou's UBW.

It even leaves you with the possibility of him using UBW in extreme situations and if shit hits the fan, outright going full Archer on his enemies and the possibility of consequences for doing that.

He'd still be OP for the mostly-human students, but not beyond the point of plausibility.

edited 27th Feb '17 1:32:21 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

Yeah, there are dozens of ways I can take away UBW (the easiest of which is probably just saying that Thaumaturgy does not work in Remnant due to how the World works) but I feel that also removes a lot of the fun of bringing Shirou into another work.

That's my thinking, too, hence why I used a method that still has him capable of using his abilities, but with a cost that means he can't just spam swords and render everyone else redundant.

It's one of the downsides of having Shirou post learning how to actually use his overpowered Reality Marble. He's kind of OP with it.

Use the Miyu-verse Shirou instead of the FSN Shirou. If nothing else, that one is more emotionally stable and yet follows the Heaven's Feel Shirou's philosophies of not prioritizing the world. Plus given the mechanics of the Grail, it's more believable he ends up in Remnant because Darius used the Ainsworth magecraft to send him to the ass-end of nowhere than break internal self-consistency by the grail actually doing something that DOESN'T result in massive needless casualties and laughing at the wish in the process.

edited 27th Feb '17 3:20:54 PM by SCMof2814

I'd rather use the Shirou I know the most about and one thing I greatly enjoy with Fate stories that are set In Medias Res or after everything is done is figuring out just what in the world could have gone down to result in where the characters are now. To that end, I want my readers to have the same experience and so I wouldn't reveal Shirou's backstory right away and instead do so somewhat slowly.

Also, I may have figured out a way around both the problem of Shirou being too OP for RWBY's plot and the fact that RWBY is not only still ongoing but isn't very far along in it's plot.

So, at some point, it's a pretty normal day for Shirou when he feels something odd on the back of his left hand. He looks down and, oh, would you look at that, it's a Command Seal. The idea is that, since Shirou's magecraft works just fine, the laws of magecraft are the same. As such, it's not unreasonable to assume that magi can exist within Remnant and would eventually construct the equivalent of the Holy Grail.

It could also allow me to bring Artoria into the plot since the one Shirou is familiar with never annulled her contract with the World and thus never ended up in Avalon. As such, since Shirou is using a catalyst that has very powerful ties to her (Avalon), he has very strong emotional ties to her, and no version of King Arthur existed in Remnant; his King Arthur gets summoned.

Que Grail War were even the Masters are super powered even by magi standards.

Alternately, you can make the whole Remnant plot moot by hitting the planet with Velber, the Umbral Star. It would actually explain the Grimm and why the moon is in stable pieces. They're leftovers from the LAST time Velber hit the planet.

Thing is, now you're running into the possibility of said super powered masters summoning ridiculously powerful servants to match.

It only takes people pulling out Karna and Arjuna and suddenly you got them devastating entire continents as they fight each other. And yes, that actually happened in FGO, where Arjuna and Karna devastated the USA until Cu Alter cheapshotted Karna. Both of them have weaponry on the level of nukes.

edited 27th Feb '17 4:14:24 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

Thing is, they live in a different world and have different catalysts. Unless that could somehow get their hands on a catalyst from our world, the only Heroic Spirit that's supposed to have been a real person/mythological figure in our world is Saber.

Now there's an idea. The HGW starts up and things are progressing when suddenly aliens show up and everything goes to absolute shit. Do you think Excalibur could still act as the Last Phantasm when not on the planet it came from or do you think I should come up with a new Last Phantasm (what lore we have for RWBY gives me possible ideas for what that could be)?

Given most of the continents of Remnant are given over to Grimm, some, like those Atlas Airheads, would not see that as a BAD thing.

@Zelenal

They're still 'humans' and the Throne of Heroes can summon heroes from parallel realities and even from the future, because it exists outside of Space and Time. Furthermore, you do not need a catalyst to summon a servant, it's just in order to get a specific servant that you use one. Without a catalyst, you summon based on compatibility.

As for bringing Velber around...

Sephyr was only remotely defeatable because it didn't have support from Velber and it was trapped in the Moon Cell. Nero had to channel the power of Aphrodite/Venus into herself while wielding the Sword of the War God and being supported by the administrator of the Moon Cell (and Hakuno was holding Saber Venus together by the skin of his/her teeth) in order to even scratch a small fragment of Velber.

Remnant has no Moon Cell to send a jamming signal that prevents Velber from finding it. Remnant would face Sephyr receiving support from Velber, with no War God to weaken it, no Beasts or Grand Servants and as far as we know, no Gods with Divine Authority to even slow it down.

In other words, if Velber's coming to eat it, Remnant is fucked.

Last time they used the moon as a meatshield.

This is true but why would it summon a Heroic Spirit from another world when Heroic Spirits from Remnant surely exist and would likely be more compatible due to sharing a world? Besides, why should I pass up to expand on the world of Remnant in an interesting way?

Also, there do exist two gods in Remnant who created the world and all things upon it so they could come into play. There's also whatever that old man is who gave the Maidens their powers. Given that Artoria is female, I could totally work up something about her receiving the powers of all the Maidens while aided by the gods of Remnant and wielding Remnant's Last Phantasm to explain how she could do damage to whoever the final boss is. I could even tie this further into Remnant's lore by saying that the reason Dust doesn't work once you reach a certain height is because it acts as a natural defense against Velber and messes with their systems. Dust being something the gods created after last time they showed up and almost destroyed the world.

Because for all we know, Remnant might have never produced a Heroic Spirit, ever. Simply because humanity is not of a 'high enough quality' to do so in that world.

Furthermore, YMMV on how much of it is 'expanding' and how much is you shoving a bunch of OC in that can run smack dab into Mary Sue territory.

Those two gods 'could' come into play, but the thing is, that would result on a bigger reaction from Velber than just Sephyr. And Sephyr is pretty much an ant compared to the whole of Velber.

Incidentally, Remnant could function completely different from Gaia. It may very well not have anything akin to Excalibur, or the ability to support something like it. You're thinking too much of the worlds functioning with convenient indenticalities. That, in and of itself, is a method to nerf Shirou - have Remnant be significantly more hostile to his projections than Gaia was. Have Remnant outright be hostile to him as an invader.

Furthermore, if things really go to shit and Velber shows up, what you need is not Excalibur or something on that level. You're going to need something that goes to the point of absurdity, like Rhongomyniad, AKA the 'History Eraser Button' for Gaia. Even if you can take out Sephyr, the end result is just Velber sending something bigger.

edited 27th Feb '17 6:16:51 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough