Yeah, those three aren't clear at all. I'm seeing a lot of sexy and no child.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickDo you mean stage left? No the one wearing armor is Athena, definitely protective/motherly. Middle is Hera, who is kind of childish in that she pitches fits. Right (with flower in her hair and dove on shoulder) is Aphrodite the goddess of love. That is all with context tho, don't think I can evaluate without very well.
That scene has been represented very many times, tho, might be a good avenue to pursue. The current image is okay also.
edited 25th Jan '12 8:39:11 PM by rodneyAnonymous
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.I really don't see how the goddesses are any clearer than the current image.
I'm not crazy, I just don't give a darn!Hera is also associated with sex and romance and her biggest fits are because Aphrodite upstages her as a bigger slut.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickAlmost every other pic of that scene I found in GIS was NSFW due to nudity...I know that classic artworks don't technically fall under that for our purposes, but I'm still not comfortable with using them. Also, they were even worse for demonstrating the trope...kinda hard to get the roles across with three naked chicks in basically the same pose.
edited 25th Jan '12 8:42:48 PM by Willbyr
Yeah Hera is the weakest one. Athena tends to look matronly and Aphrodite tends to look like a seductress.
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.I assumed I got it wrong, since I knew Athena isn't supposed to be a seductress.
Still, she's the one lifting her dress and showing off her leg. In that picture, she's the sexy one.
Just throwing this one out here, even though it's too risqué even for our "artistic nudity is OK" policy:
The three stages of woman, plus a bonus guy◊ (Artist is Edward Munch.)
I thought that Athena is the child (one of the few virginal godesses)and Hera the wife. If we want to use this scene I think this image is quite good. [1]◊ Aphrodite is confident in her sexuality, Athena is covering herself and Hera is fully clothed and has a confident stance while putting her hand comforting of Athenas shoulder.
edited 26th Jan '12 1:47:39 AM by Osmium
he last few posts are a very good indication that the three godesses is not a good illustration of the trio. The three roles have been assigned, from left to right, as being variously:
wife; child; seductress
child; wife;seductress
and
seductress; child; wife
Which means that this image does not clearly illustrate the archetypes.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.Additionally if you know the goddesses it's even worse, since Hera is the symbol of hearth and home, while Athena is knowledge and wisdom.
Ah My Goddess is another show that uses this motif heavily.
Not great but found in a minute on google image search◊ We could probably find a better one.
I don't know, I think we might need to create our own image. particularly if we want non anime.
I thought the Gilligan's Island ladies got it pretty well.
Goal: Clear, Concise and WittyNo, they do The Hecate Sisters well. There's no crone in this one.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickHecate Sisters involves age as well. And while Mrs Howell is the oldest, shes not the wisest or most cynical — and that's the Crone role in The Hecate Sisters.
What's interesting about the Gilligan's Island one is that all three Faces Of Eve are there. But Mrs Howell is the oldest chronologically and still fills the "Child" role — she's naive, pretty much nonsexual, and dependent. It's Mary Ann that's the Wife; sensible, stable, and reliable.
So for me, the question about using tyhat image is this: how many people are going to assume that Mrs Howell and Mary Ann fill the wrong roles and thus keep on misusing the trope?
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.You're right. I was going on appearances, not the actual characters for the Gilligan's thing.
So we need a wise woman, a vamp, and girl-child.
Goal: Clear, Concise and WittyNot so much wise as sensible. Wise implies age where that's not really a factor here. Sensible and practical is really more what the wife embodies.
We also want to avoid any images that show a very young woman, a middlish woman, and an old woman. Confusion with The Hecate Sisters is a real thing.
edited 26th Jan '12 9:42:09 AM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickHad a go at it, but wasn't really sure how to express the sensible face. [1]
^ All anime.
Goal: Clear, Concise and WittyFirst one's pretty good. Number five is broken, redirects to some football site.
Actually, you know what'd also make a great pic? One of the same woman playing each role.
edited 3rd Feb '12 10:34:36 PM by evilneko
The first one's quite suitable, it gets the meaning of the trope across pretty well and it displays the attitudes of the three faces fairly well.
"Oh, dear. The toad, the monkey, and the dog have all screwed up."Here's another link for 5 for those that can't see it.◊
My picks would be this one or 2 although 1 is also good.
edited 3rd Feb '12 11:28:33 PM by doomrider7
Aw c'mon, man, you're gonna bring that up even on something as hard to find a picture of as this?
Not that I even think those pictures are very good, but, c'mon, priorities?
I don't see much motherly in any of those, but that just might be me.
Crown Description:
IMPORTANT: The image should show the 3 different character types that form the trope.- Type 1: Childlike, innocent, naive
- Type 2: Wise, calm, steady. The "ideal" wife.
- Type 3: Sexy, seductive, independent
The one on the left is sexy, and the one in the middle is the child?