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Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#1: Jan 16th 2012 at 11:44:45 AM

I first thought this was some geography trope until I clicked on it, which left me baffled why an underwear trope would be named after the capital of England.

I have since been informed that it's basically a nursery rhyme; however you would have to be from a very specific country and age category to catch the reference.

Showing underwear is a very common joke, and due to the nature of the internet, any sexuality-related trope is expected to be popular. But what we have here is 124 wicks, 612 inbounds; so I suggest that the trope isn't doing well, as a result of its obscure name.

NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#2: Jan 16th 2012 at 11:46:47 AM

I agree. I get what they did there, but not until clicking on it. Trope names should be easily discernible from the name alone.

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Flyboy Decemberist from the United States Since: Dec, 2011
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#3: Jan 16th 2012 at 11:53:47 AM

...how in god's name have you never heard "I see London, I see France, I someone's underpants!" before?

(I'm not sure if that's actually how the last part of the phrase goes, as I haven't encountered it commonly in years, but w/e).

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Osmium from Germany Since: Dec, 2010
#4: Jan 16th 2012 at 11:57:07 AM

...how in god's name have you never heard "I see London, I see France, I someone's underpants!" before?

That is definitly not the kind of stuff I learned in my english classes...

Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#5: Jan 16th 2012 at 11:58:03 AM

[up][up] Like I said, because rhymes like this are almost always specific to one particular country/state and age category. In my general area, nobody says this ever.

edited 16th Jan '12 11:59:21 AM by Spark9

Flyboy Decemberist from the United States Since: Dec, 2011
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#6: Jan 16th 2012 at 12:06:30 PM

Well, it's not used in my age range either anymore. This was an old joke for kids to play on each other.

What would you suggest as an alternate title?

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#7: Jan 16th 2012 at 12:20:38 PM

[up]I See Xs Underpants. Because that's the part of the nursery rhyme that actually states the trope.

This kind of thing should be put on bad trope namers: Works that have good trope namers, but choosing another line than the relevant one to the trope.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#8: Jan 16th 2012 at 10:42:15 PM

Another ending is I Can See Your Underpants.

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PatrickSwanson from Adelaide, Australia Since: Oct, 2010
#10: Jan 16th 2012 at 11:38:04 PM

I come from a place where the rhyme doesn't even work because we say "Frahnce", and even I had no problem understanding this name.

Kayube Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#11: Jan 17th 2012 at 9:36:34 AM

I'd say either I Can See Your Underpants, or Undie Shot (by analogy with Panty Shot). Though, I'm not sure how well that second one would work since the trope seems to be more about characters in universe seeing someone's underpants, rather than the audience.

plufffluff Since: Dec, 2010
#12: Jan 20th 2012 at 3:38:42 PM

[up] I like your I Can See Your Underpants idea.

edited 20th Jan '12 3:39:07 PM by plufffluff

Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#14: Feb 3rd 2012 at 10:10:56 PM

That's a good name. I've also heard elsewhere that "underpants" is an inherently funny word (as opposed to the more sexual "underwear.")

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#16: Feb 4th 2012 at 6:22:21 AM

Nth-plus-one. Keeps the reference, removes any ambiguity for those with deprived childhoods.

Myra Since: Oct, 2011
#17: Feb 4th 2012 at 6:55:17 AM

I like the name too, but I worry that it sounds too much like dialogue. What are the guidelines on that?

EDIT: Nevermind, I found what I was looking for.

edited 4th Feb '12 10:39:50 AM by Myra

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#18: Feb 4th 2012 at 7:23:37 AM

That might be true, but I think any dialogue that's actually quoting it verbatim is highly likely to be an example of the trope, so misuse because of it being dialogue isn't very likely at all.

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MyTimingIsOff Since: Dec, 2011
#19: Feb 4th 2012 at 11:53:59 AM

[up]Doesn't matter. We can't have any new dialogue titles.

Myra Since: Oct, 2011
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#21: Feb 6th 2012 at 6:07:23 AM

Crowner attached.

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djbj Since: Oct, 2010
Pig_catapult Hurler of Swine from Knee-deep in Nightmare Fuel Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#23: Feb 12th 2012 at 10:13:55 AM

I'm personally in favour of "Comedic Underwear Exposure"

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#24: Feb 12th 2012 at 10:59:04 AM

Calling in favour of rename.

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