I see the Awesomeness.
The second sounds more like trying to write an essay.
Fight smart, not fair.
The Other Troper
Well the page kind of reads like that anyway. So either it should be done right or just cut.
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This page seems entirely unnecessary.
Since January 1, 2011 this article has brought 69 people to the wiki from non-search engine links.
Those numbers don't seem that great either.
edited 1st Jan '12 5:41:10 PM by petrie911
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The Other Troper
So cutting is an option as well.
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Gentleman Troper!
I think the first point you cite is a trope, and the second is not. I also think that this is a valid trope, and should not be cutlisted but instead be opened to in-universe examples.
Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
Limiting this to in-universe examples only seems like the best course of action. The page as it is right now has the exact same problem that the True Art pages had before the clean-up, except while those pages were directing criticism at elitist critics, this page is criticizing the people on the other end of the spectrum as far as opinions on quality determination goes.
I think we could comfortably merge this whole page into its parent trope, Appeal to Popularity, which is itself almost empty.
One is someone considering popularity to be all that matters about quality, and I even know an In-Universe example on Third Rock From The Sun, "The number one movie in America, and that's good enough for me".
But the other is the question of whether popularity equals quality. I would say yes, and no, but the question is far more complex than the page represents (since what makes some works popular and unpopular is rarely simple), and giving a proper voice to both sides of the argument.
One could be a legit trope with enough examples, while the other needs a lot more work to properly discuss it.
edited 31st Dec '11 9:13:04 PM by DragonQuestZ
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