General Star Wars Thread

Vader being lawful evil keeps him from veering into the general douchebaggery you can expect from typical Sith Lords. He will kill for incompetence, but has a sense of honor, unlike pretty much every sith lord. He'll probably only kill her once she screws up or poses a threat.

I need to read this comic sometime. It looks pretty cool.

It is. So is the Princess Leia comic!

Some talk about the Amy Hennig Star Wars game.

I always thought that Star Wars could be excellently recycled into an Assassins Creed game - as bounty hunters tasked with eliminating or capturing certain targets, players would be able to witness the Galactic Civil War as a rogue outsider instead of being one of the combatants of either faction as usually in games. Dare I say it, Boba Fett could even be the player character.

I still wish we could have gotten 1313, even just as a novel (Maybe written by Timothy Zahn or Matthew Stover).

Yeah, something tells me 1313 would've been a fantastic game.

I wonder how Vader can be an effective force user at all; pretty much the only part of him that is him is his head. He has no arms, no legs and most of his internal organs are either damaged beyond repair or outright gone.

There was one Jedi that was essentially just a brain in a jar and he was apparently awesome. The body is no object to most Force powers, just Force Lightning, that I know of.

He just has that many midichlorians.

Luminous beings are we. Not this crude matter.

He was severely weakened by his injuries, they limited him to less than half of his full potential (he could've become twice as powerful as Palpatine, but Vader at his peak was only 80% as strong him)

edited 29th Jun '15 12:09:46 PM by Werebazs

Luke could still use the Force with his mechanical hand.

I only just realized that the one limb Obi-Wan didn't cut off at the end of ROTS was the only that was already severed before.

Ouch.

Also, the brain-in-a-jar Jedi was from a cnidarian (i.e. jellyfish-like) species, so he wasn't a brain, that was just his body.

Using the force is still a mind over matter ordeal, it's the reason human Jedi are capable of superhuman feats and how the elderly Yoda is able to temporarily toss away the cane and become a buzzsaw. The force potential in any given force user is theoretically unlimited, but physical bodies and mental acuity are still major factors. "Master Yoda, you can't die." "Strong am I with the force, but not that strong."

Vader's injuries were mended and he is alive, but still in constant physical pain. That alone means he is capable of brief bursts of force powers but is still a crippled old man.

edited 29th Jun '15 4:35:20 PM by KJMackley

That wouldn't be a discussion if not for this one mention of midichlorians.

The midichlorians don't matter. They're just the wand that enables force users to cast their spells. Getting his arm chopped off didn't weaken Anakin at all, but getting the other limbs lopped off did? It's a mental thing, and he just can't get past his own blocks. Throughout history, lots of darksiders have been horribly disfigured, even more than Vader, and come out to retain their power.

If Vader was truly evil like Palpatine and other Sith Lords he'd be a force (heh) of nature.

Hell, I'm pretty sure one Sith lord was an actual corpse.

If Midichlorians are in your body then less body means less midichlorians.

Also: I was joking.

Yup. One of the Sith Masters from Kot OR 2.

BS stuff like that is why I celebrated the reboot...It's just disgusting how little respect the old EU had for the movies and the rules laid down in them. Not just for the prequels, but the originals as well.

edited 30th Jun '15 12:59:19 AM by Werebazs

That's actually one of the lesser issues with the old EU. Any sufficiently popular work can end up becoming glorified fanfiction with some degree of canon labeled to it. For me it's the escalation of what the technology of the setting and the force users are capable of doing, down to actual, documented cases of blowing up a star. For the movies they always kept their capabilities in the realm of supernatural but not godlike, not so much for lack of budget but that whenever you have an "I win" button the situation becomes exceedingly more convoluted as for why they don't press that every time.

As for midichlorians the Jedi only used them as a reference point for someones force potential, not as strictly a meter for how strong they are. Without training even Anakin would never control or comprehend the nature of what he did previously by instinct. Obi-Wan was apparently only mediocre as a youngling, but he grew into his own from Padawan training with Qui-Gon.

KOTOR 2 is one of the only parts of the old EU I actually liked so you will take that back right the hell now.

...I mean, the Sith Lords were pretty cool. Sion and Nihilus and Traya.

Isn't Sion kept alive by sheer hatred? His body is pretty much a gigantic scar that's held together by the Force but it's not what's keeping him alive IIRC.