Female-to-Male Marriage Proposals

To a certain degree, perhaps. But I think that this is the sort of thing that should be discussed openly and in detail — it may sound unromantic, but it's pretty important in order to make some sort of plan about, you know, offspring and housing and expenses and so on.

edited 25th Jul '12 7:54:32 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.

Why is it always an engagement ring, anyway? As opposed to a bracelet or a necklace or something?

edited 25th Jul '12 7:56:50 AM by KylerThatch

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...

I would be in favor of an engagement cake. But then again, I am always in favor of cake.

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.

True, but she should know beforehand whether or not her partner can afford to get married, even if she doesn't know all the details, so, if she really wants the surprise that goes with a proposal, she should probably discuss the details after the proposal, but independently make sure that their financial situation is adequate enough that they can afford to get married before the proposal.

Engagement tactical nuke?

@ Carc. How are you going to show off your engagement cake to people?

"Honey, I love you so much. I would give away the world to see you smile!"

"Awww. That's sweet."

"So, here's a nuke, just in case."

@Carc: Of course, both partners should be aware of each other's financial situations, but if the guy is going to be the one responsible for providing a decent living, he's also the one who ultimately has to make the call of how stable is stable enough.

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That's a rather male-centric viewpoint. At any time, the female could be a breadwinner. It's not set in stone. Generalisations are not useful at the individual level. The ring just symbolises the fact that "yo, we're cool and shit. Let's merge tax affairs and buy a house together".

Ideally, I think that the two of them should "make the call" together.

After all, both the male and the female have veto power, and this independently on who gains more money.

If the girl wants to marry but the guy thinks that the financial situation is not stable enough, no marriage ensues; and if the guy wants to marry but the girl thinks that the financial situation is not stable enough, similarly, no marriage ensues.

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.

I prefaced this discussion with "In a society where the male is expected to be the primary breadwinner for the household (which, like it or not, still describes much of American society)", remember?

edited 25th Jul '12 8:30:08 AM by EdwardsGrizzly

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I'm reminded of the guy who bought his wife a thousand dollar diamond ring, and then bought himself a titanium ring on a twenty five dollar gift card, and had enough left over for beef jerky. I believe he claimed to have gotten the better deal.

Fight smart, not fair.

Well fuck. I'd take the beef jerky and 25 dollar ring too. Jerky's good and hey it's still a ring.

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As fun as this discussion is, it's getting off topic. Does anyone think there's more to say about female-to-male marriage proposals, or shall I lock?

"You fail to grasp the basic principles of mad science. Common sense would be cheating." - Narbonic

Probably not, go for the lock.

Fight smart, not fair.