Malicious
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African-American. You gotta respect what he says about himself.
There are no just Americans.
I dunno. Somebody ask Mama Obama.
edited 6th Dec '11 7:35:11 PM by TheWesterner
I was wondering why frisbees got bigger as they got closer then it hit me.
I changed accounts.
Why do I care? Ideally, I would never think of him as a "Black American." He's just an American. A particularly important American, perhaps, but still, an American.
His ancestry and, less still, the color of his skin, are irrelevant.
I am now known as Flyboy.
Malicious
Oh they are very relevant. Maybe not to you,but to a great deal of people.
That's why I asked the question. Some people don't care. But others are VERY connected to it. And I rather ask and try something new than to keep floundering and being socially awkward or insulting.
@ Gabrael
HAHA!
"Oh wait. She doesn't have a... Forget what I said, don't catch the preggo. Just wear her hat." - Question Marc
Malicious
Go with multi-ethnic.
I'm not sure why anyone would be offended by that though. I've yet to meet that type of person I guess.
edited 6th Dec '11 7:52:25 PM by TheWesterner
I was wondering why frisbees got bigger as they got closer then it hit me.
sounds fair enough.
"Oh wait. She doesn't have a... Forget what I said, don't catch the preggo. Just wear her hat." - Question Marc
Pink♥Chainsaw
I've gotta ask this question. How exactly does a half-black/half-white identify themselves as white? I mean most mixed children look more black then white to me anyways. I guess it's the same deal for most black people as well but I still wonder.
"If there is a hole then it's a man's job to thrust into it" - Ryoma from New Getter Robo
"I mean most mixed children look more black then white to me anyways. I guess it's the same deal for most black people as well but I still wonder."
I'm guessing that's because you're white. If you were black, you might think they look more white than black. Or as white as they look black.
edited 6th Dec '11 8:45:15 PM by kashchei
And better than thy stroke; why swellest thou then?
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
^ If he's American, you can give him the benefit of the doubt. Thanks to the old "one-drop rule" of racism, we're used to seeing multiracial people identify as black, so people who don't identify as black can still look "black" by virtue of looking and being just as black as people who used to have to.
God, that came out a jumbled mess.
Edit: Decided to actually look up the statistics. If Wikipedia is to be believed, more than half of African-Americans had a white great-grandparent
.
edited 6th Dec '11 9:10:49 PM by feotakahari
That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
Malicious
That's nothing. Latin America is a huge mess of races. Latin America is the true melting pot. racially speaking of course.
Are there any Zambos around here or Castizos or Coyotes ? 
Let's just say that we had a very detailed caste system.
edited 6th Dec '11 9:29:37 PM by TheWesterner
I was wondering why frisbees got bigger as they got closer then it hit me.
I see the Awesomeness.
Heard a story of a white guy claiming he was a black man with a skin disease so he could pull the race card.
Fight smart, not fair.
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
As for actually answering Chainsaw's question, a lot of it has to do with what other people call you. For instance, I have those distinctive cheekbones you see in Apaches
, but most people don't notice skeletal structure, so I'm likely to be called either white or Hispanic. As such, I often feel weird about making any claim to Native American heritage.*
edited 6th Dec '11 9:54:12 PM by feotakahari
That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
I know what you mean. I'm part Thai, but I feel weird/like a poser when I mention it because I apparently don't look Thai at all.
Malicious
, Thirding.
I'm a quarter Asian, but no one believes me.
edited 6th Dec '11 10:38:39 PM by TheWesterner
I was wondering why frisbees got bigger as they got closer then it hit me.
Pink♥Chainsaw
Well that sucks for you guys. There are many people of many different ethnic groups, it's kind of amazing actually.
"If there is a hole then it's a man's job to thrust into it" - Ryoma from New Getter Robo
Happy New Year!
My dad is always making Irish jokes when ever Obama is on the news.
Did I ever mention his mother in law comes from cork?
edited 7th Dec '11 5:15:49 AM by joeyjojo
hashtagsarestupid
watching down on us
This final usage, as a term of endearment, is especially problematic. "Sup Niggah," has become an almost universal greeting among young urban blacks. When pressed, blacks who use nigger or its variants claim the following: it has to be understood contextually; continual use of the word by blacks will make it less offensive; it is not really the same word because whites are saying nigger (and niggers) but blacks are saying niggah (and niggaz); and, it is just a word and blacks should not be prisoners of the past or the ugly words which originated in the past. These arguments are not convincing. Brother (Brotha) and Sister (Sistha or Sista) are terms of endearment. Nigger was and remains a term of derision. Moreover, the false dichotomy between blacks or African Americans (respectable and middle-class) and niggers (disrespectable and lower class) should be opposed. No blacks are niggers, irrespective of behavior, income, ambition, clothing, ability, morals, or skin color. Finally, if continued use of the word lessened its sting then nigger would by now have no sting. Blacks, beginning in slavery, have internalized the negative images that white society cultivated and propagated about black skin and black people. This is reflected in periods of self- and same-race loathing. The use of the word nigger by blacks reflects this loathing, even when the user is unaware of the psychological forces at play. Nigger is the ultimate expression of white racism and white superiority, irrespective of the way it is pronounced. It is a linguistic corruption, a corruption of civility. Nigger is the most infamous word in American culture. Some words carry more weight than others. At the risk of hyperbole, is genocide just another word? Pedophilia? Obviously, no: neither is nigger.
Erdman Palmore researched ethnophaulisms and made the following observations: the number of ethnophaulisms used correlates positively with the amount of out-group prejudice; and ethnophaulisms express and support negative stereotypes about the most visible racial and cultural differences.15
Nutshell: David Pilgrim uses the history of the word "nigger" to show how anyone who reinforces the [self-]loathing and defeatist culture that glorifies black stereotypes and operates on the assumption that black people are inherently different from everyone else '''is keeping alive a culture of racism. These people are enabling and glorifying racism. It does not matter if they are black or white or whether or not they actively like "black" things, by supporting the idea that there is "black" culture and "white" culture and these are separate things that do not mingle they are being racist.
edited 7th Dec '11 5:51:10 AM by annebeeche
Banned entirely for telling FE that he was being rude and not contributing to the discussion. I shall watch down from the goon heavens.
Is that cake frosting?
I do not find this phenomenon all that surprising.
Using grave insults as terms of endearment, whenever the context makes it clear that they are not being used in their original meaning, seems to be relatively common. It seems to me that, at its heart, it is a way of indicating closeness — as in, "we are so much friends that I can call you <insert horribly insulting term here> and accept <insert other insulting term here>, because we know each other well enough to know that no one of us really means it".
edited 7th Dec '11 5:53:05 AM by Carciofus
But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
watching down on us
I suppose that's true, but this word doesn't exist in isolation—it helms and represents an entire thriving culture that revolves around the glorification of stereotyping blacks, and the reinforcement of the idea that blacks are inherently different from whites.
Banned entirely for telling FE that he was being rude and not contributing to the discussion. I shall watch down from the goon heavens.
Malicious
But they are different even if a little.
We're Having All The Fun
Should you really distinguish between them? There is greater genetic variation between some members of the same "race" as some of different "races". People are people, no point discriminating based on small things like melanin.
Is that cake frosting?
But they seem to
know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.
We're Having All The Fun
I'd be more inclined to judge each person on their individual actions and beliefs.
All I do, is sit down at the computer, and start hittin' the keys. Getting them in the right order, that's the trick.
Malicious
@Yeah Bro It's not about genes(well kinda),but physical appearance.
Racist! You know that Native Americans are horrible at growing facial hair.
edited 7th Dec '11 7:09:40 AM by TheWesterner
I was wondering why frisbees got bigger as they got closer then it hit me.
I personally prefer to ignore race/ethnicity/whatever outside of sociological discussions as much as I can help it.
As for Obama, I would say that he's American.
The end.
I am now known as Flyboy.