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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#51: Nov 4th 2011 at 5:54:24 PM

So...people aren't allowed to comment on this unless they like the games?

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Legionnaire The Leading Man from Australia Since: Oct, 2010
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#52: Nov 4th 2011 at 6:02:17 PM

Hold up, weren't these RP Gs already released? Or was that just the PAL store?

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BetaRay Web Slinger/Hope Bringer Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#53: Nov 4th 2011 at 6:08:12 PM

Gig, let us unite our factions under the banner of the Atlus Empire.

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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#54: Nov 4th 2011 at 6:20:48 PM

@Desertopa: thats kind of my point. And kind of the point of chrono cross. So muvch of chrono's qurest is so paradoxical in nature that it kind of results in the Plotline of CC. Almost all the lategame content of CC is based around the various paradoxes. The Terra Tower is from a world denied by the destruction of the Reptite Empire, Time Devourer is whats left of Lavos and Schala fused together in the nothingness of the darkness where time doesnt exist, etc)

TheWesterner Malicious from The Land of Fools Since: Oct, 2011
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#55: Nov 4th 2011 at 6:38:44 PM

NINTENDO FANS! TO ME! TO ME!

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Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#56: Nov 4th 2011 at 6:47:19 PM

But I like both SMT and Nintendo! sad

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Nicknacks Ding-ding! Going down... from Land Down Under Since: Oct, 2010
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#57: Nov 4th 2011 at 6:51:00 PM

I think that Cross's story would have been effective if it were only what you were describing, midgetsnowman. Problem is it feels the need to tell a completely new, unrelated story on top of dealing with the loose ends, and puts that story front and centre, instead of placing those loose ends in a more prominent position. As such, all references to the previous game feel incidental, even though they're largely integral to the plot.

You could have still gotten good mileage out of the game, but the exposition is so poor (even for a JRPG) that the good elements the game has are squandered by bad presentation. That said, I think there's a good idea at the game's heart: what if the characters from the first game were eliminated in the same way they tried to eliminate Lavos? What the sequel's heroes had to sacrifice themselves and their home in order to reinstate the happy-ish ending of the first game?

Which, I think is what they were going for, given the number of role reversals the game has both within itself and in comparison to Trigger. It's a good idea, but badly told.

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#58: Nov 4th 2011 at 6:56:15 PM

@MSM I never finished Cross so I don't know the details, but I think what you're talking about isn't paradoxes so much as deleted timelines due changes from time travel. All deleted timelines get sent to the Darkness Beyond Time. This is where Lavos fused with Schala to make the Time Devourer. It really has nothing to do with paradoxes per say.

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#59: Nov 4th 2011 at 7:16:59 PM

I never get tired of people asking loaded questions like these.

Yeah...with something like Final Fantasy where pretty much every game is loved by many and hated by many, simply asking if one is good tends to be rather unhelpful.

edited 4th Nov '11 7:17:22 PM by Beorc

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MrDolomite Since: Feb, 2010
#60: Nov 4th 2011 at 7:55:18 PM

Apparently, someone hasn't met the Final Fantasy Fandom which would disagree with some part of this statement...

Whoops! Guess I should've put in my opinion, because that's exactly what it was.

pyr0h1tman8 What'd you just say about my hair?! from The Land Down Under Since: Jul, 2010
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#61: Nov 4th 2011 at 9:51:31 PM

Sign me up for the ATLUS army. tongue

But regarding the FF games, it really just depends on what type of game you like. For example, if you like poorly written characters, horrible gameplay and terrible plots you will play -Insert Hated Final Fantasy here-

edited 4th Nov '11 9:56:51 PM by pyr0h1tman8

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Desertopa Not Actually Indie Since: Jan, 2001
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#62: Nov 5th 2011 at 5:57:31 AM

@Desertopa: thats kind of my point. And kind of the point of chrono cross. So muvch of chrono's qurest is so paradoxical in nature that it kind of results in the Plotline of CC.

But the plotline of Chrono Cross is also paradoxical, or at least highly inconsistent. If you're going to going to base a game on a defiance of Bellisario's Maxim, examining closely something that was never meant to be examined closely in the first place, I would think the last thing you want is a followup that doesn't bear close examination.

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metaphysician Since: Oct, 2010
#63: Nov 5th 2011 at 8:02:33 AM

In recent years, I think the only companies who've made JRP Gs I've enjoyed are Atlus and Namco-Bandai. I haven't really enjoyed a new Final Fantasy since X. . .

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INUH Since: Jul, 2009
#64: Nov 5th 2011 at 9:44:51 AM

ATLUS army for me :D

Though come to think of it, I did quite like FFTA.

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Deathonabun Bunny from the bedroom Since: Jan, 2001
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#65: Nov 5th 2011 at 9:50:20 AM

I'll join Nippon Ichi's Militia, thanks.

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Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#66: Nov 5th 2011 at 9:51:50 AM

Guys, what side should I be on? sad

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LOEADITOOx .... from -???- Since: Feb, 2011
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#67: Nov 5th 2011 at 12:17:07 PM

Nippon Ichi Militia NEEDS you!!!!, join us, we have cake, and this time is not a lie

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TomOrley Since: Dec, 1969
#68: Nov 5th 2011 at 1:52:43 PM

I was very happy to see this news on here today. I loved FF V and VI, in my opinion, niether was really outdone until Xenoblade chronicles came out this year.

V had the job system, which just lets you break the game in the most extaordinary and fun ways, and VI had a compelling cast of likable characters, and was the first time I actually cared what happend to a group in an RPG, as such it holds a welcome place in my gaming history.

Did they fix the save bug in FFV?

Rebochan Since: Jan, 2001
#69: Nov 5th 2011 at 6:00:53 PM

So, in wich moment this thread was converted in a complaint one?, If you dont like these, then why you people bother to post here?

Because they're Final Fantasy fans and that is all they know how to do.

thefran Easily Amused from a microwave oven Since: Oct, 2011
#70: Nov 5th 2011 at 6:02:47 PM

Nippon Ichi Militia NEEDS you
No thanks, my favourite JRPG developer is Ion Storm.

edited 5th Nov '11 6:02:59 PM by thefran

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Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#71: Nov 5th 2011 at 6:06:13 PM

[up][up][up]Save bug? ?.?

[up][up][up][up]But I've never played a Nippon Ichi game in my life! sad

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pyr0h1tman8 What'd you just say about my hair?! from The Land Down Under Since: Jul, 2010
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#72: Nov 5th 2011 at 6:09:40 PM

Join the ATLUS army. We have cookies..... DEMON COOKIES!

In our heart, Mr. Ando will always be a penguin.
Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#73: Nov 5th 2011 at 6:14:01 PM

[up]It's between Atlus and Nintendo. smile (Do FF games released on the GBA count for Nintendo?)

Can I join both? smile

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Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#75: Nov 5th 2011 at 7:13:02 PM

[up]YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH grin

I'm joining both! grin

You know, why can't the FF games being released here be the GBA versions?

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