Christian University to Make Staff Sign Homosexuality Pledge

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Screw you Shorter University. According to YOUR holy book, YOUR god makes people the way they are be they gay, straight, bisexual, transsexual, fishsexual, or treesexual. You have no right to discriminate. I hate this kind of crap.

Who'd actually sign 'yes' on that crap?

anyone who wants to keep their job or not have the sort of people who send their kids to a christian college not demand their immediate firing

That's not a place you want to send someone to get an education.

I meant saying 'yes' in the way of: "Yeah I'm a homo. Wadup?"

I'd write "Yes I'm gay, you should already know this you whore. I let you take me from behind last months and you never called me back." then leave and put in my resume in at a REAL university.

What century do these figures life in? This notion they are introducing is of the most hateful! Have they forsaken teachings of peace and love that Jesus gave in pace of... discrimination?! Such discrimination should be subjected to the wrath of judgement that be the law. Such discrimination is disgusting!

>Implying that there aren't gay Christians, or that Christians never adulterate or have sex before marriage

Probably the same century that the people on Skaði Forum come from.

edited 2nd Nov '11 12:58:41 PM by annebeeche

...wow, that's...that's absolutely horrible, and I'm saying this as a christian ally of GLBT causes. Christian should not equal hateful!

edited 2nd Nov '11 12:58:52 PM by Katrika

So, in order to work at a Christian university, you have to agree to uphold Christian values.

The problem is....?

Different people have different opinions on what makes a Christian Christian.

The problem is these AREN'T mainstream christian values, it's just the the values of the subgroups that yell the loudest. And it's also not about values - you can't chose not to be homosexual, bisexual, or even transgender. In the case of the first two, you can only chose not to be in a sexual relationship of someone of the same gender, (if it bothers you personally, if it doesn't, I believe you should go ahead and even get married, yes, marriage for everyone, it's not sex outside marriage if you can get married).

Sorry, I'm babbling, I babble when I'm upset.

edited 2nd Nov '11 1:01:30 PM by Katrika

a true Christan would be a hippie, "PEACE, LOVE, AND A JOINTS FOR ALL" or something like that

YES, PEACE, LOVE, MARRIAGE FOR ALL.

You can't choose not to be gay if you're gay, this is like them saying they won't hire black people or women!

According to the linked document (though The Mail is not a rag I'd care to trust) this is legal 'cos the school receives no federal funding. But doesn't it fall foul of discrimination laws? Is it any different from banning blacks or irish◊?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ1L4eeu5KI&feature=related

I get that everybody has a different take on what, precisely, makes a Christian. But the Bible, as I understand it, does in fact forbid sex outside of marriage, homosexuality, and other such behavior.

As for personal choice, I agree that perhaps we don't pick and choose what our innner leanings are. But we most certainly choose to give in to a certain lifestyle.

But this is all really besides the point, if such views offend, then why not NOT work there??

EDIT: No, this isn't the same as racial discrimination, in the same way that not permitting smoking in a restaurant isn't the same as discrimination against Latinos.

edited 2nd Nov '11 1:09:40 PM by TheStarshipMaxima

No, it's really, really not.

The ultimate Christian value is love for others. This means that EVERYONE, gay, straight, bisexual, transexual, etc., should be loved and embraced by true Christians if they are doing their best to live in a peaceful, loving way.

Insisting that everyone at this university be completely 100% straight never-thought-about-the-same-sex-in-a-sexy-way and saying "oh, we're just upholding Christian values" is directly contradicting the whole concept of loving your neighbor as yourself and being understanding and kind to others who are different from you.

Why is this so hard for such people to understand?

Hmmm. I'll be waiting for a follow up report about how the assistant dean was having an affair with several male students.

That's not the only thing I find objectionable in that pledge.

In my university, we end our weekly research seminars by offering one beer to all participants and listeners.

edited 2nd Nov '11 1:10:28 PM by Carciofus

This is especially pissing me off because you can be GLBT and a christian, and if people don't accept that, they're driving away people, not converting them.

But it's a good thing for people to be driven off.

It is not up to Christians to regulate other people's behavior. Even if homosexuality were a sin according to the Bible (versus the act of sodomy), there is no mandate in the Bible to forcibly prevent people from sinning.

The Bible also forbids women from going with their heads uncovered in a church. This used to remain incredibly true for Christians during most of the Middle Ages, but is certainly not anymore.

I forget the exact chapter, but it was one of the epistles.

EDIT: The Epistles are the new testament.

edited 2nd Nov '11 1:35:23 PM by annebeeche