Lucid, adamant, and informed people are nevertheless vulnerable to psychological stress and pressure.
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If so, they are not yet lucid. If they can't make such a decision absent outside pressure, they aren't ready to do it, yet.
Granted, in reality such a thing is impossible, but high standards are necessary to prevent people who might otherwise still lead quite productive and happy lives from making poor and rash decisions...
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I should think anyone capable of signing a Living Will and/or a DNR should be okay.
Honestly, I'd prefer "If I'm in a coma, please utilize Physician Assisted Suicide" to be part of a Living Will.
What standards? People can appear entirely lucid and yet be hiding all sorts of crazy anxieties (believe me, I speak from personal experience).
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Coma patients... are totally different ballgames. It really only enters a gray area if there's no living will. If there's a living will, we go with that, period. If not...
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Yeah, such is why we have psychiatrists.
edited 20th Oct '11 6:20:23 PM by USAF713
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Well, Living Wills don't have any language about termination, only about denying nutrition and hydration.
Physician Assisted suicide would allow for termination language to be added.
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Well, such is what needs to be changed, then.
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You can't commit suicide in a coma, the only thing I can think of would be hooking up some sort of a lethal drug injector to a MRI and a dead man switch.
If you outright ask a love one to Mercy Kill you if you fall into a coma that's different ballgame.
edited 20th Oct '11 6:29:40 PM by joeyjojo
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Living will should include physician assisted suicide terminology, and physicians should be allowed to prescribe intentionally lethal medications to patients. That's all I ask.
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...prescribe.
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that's pushing the definition of 'suicide' to beyond breaking point tomu.
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I have no problem with my earlier suggested proposal.
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Just as long as we are clear.
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Obviously, if a pharmacist is prescribing the medication, it would only be if the patient has explicitly requested it, in case that wasn't clear.
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A pharmacist can't prescribe anything. They can only dispense it. I presume that you meant "a physician" there.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
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...this isn't something we'd want to be casually giving out at the pharmacy, nor would we want it happening at home...
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Well, whatever I meant to say then. STOP RAGGING ON ME <runs off crying>
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You guys know what he means. look you went and made him cry now
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No, I actually thought he was honestly suggesting over-the-counter suicide...
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<Goes to his pharmacist>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drion%27s_pill
Been proposed before. The Dutch, it seems, were once keen on being pioneers in matters such as these.
Sounds like a good idea to me.
Though not the only option, I should hope. My father was only 62 when he was diagnosed with Glioblastoma after all.
edited 20th Oct '11 7:45:06 PM by TheyCallMeTomu
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...the Dutch further convince me of their lack of common sense, by wanting to have such a thing happen unsupervised...
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Who said anything about it being unsupervised?
When they're lucid, informed, and adamant, it's time to give up on persuasion.
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