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WHICH IS REALLY FUCKING SAD.
MUST BE THERAPIST. MUST HELP PEOPLE WITH SCIENCE.
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
What does that mean and what does that have to do anything?
In just about everything networking counts more than any other factor you can think of, plain and simple. Especially in this economy. I'd say Power of Love/Friendship is more valuable than any other power, save Money of course. 
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I really can't understand anything you write. I'm not trying to be rude. I sincerly can't understand it.
Either my English is not as good as I thought it was or your sentences are not very well-constructed. Or maybe both.
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Basically what he's saying is that having a network of friends is very, very useful. It can help you find jobs, give you people to fall back on in times of financial distress, and so on. You have to provide this to them as well, but friends are a great thing to have for these practical life matters. Along with the whole emotional support thing. That's always nice.
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
I agree that it does, but that's just basic social interaction. Humans are meant to interact with one another. That's our nature.
What I'm yet to see are examples of love/friendship being "weaponized", so to speak. You gave me the suicide attempts and that's all.
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I've also given you the fact that a lack of it may end up causing ASPD, in the sociopathy form. Psychopathy being the form caused from things like genetics.
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
Decemberist
There was this psychologist geezer who found out that he has both the warrior gene and other markers for Psychopathy but because he had a normal childhood, he was ok
-shrug-
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Yeah shit like that happens. Proper love and what not can't always prevent a variety of psychological disorders, but they can damn sure fucking help keep it from springing up. Or keeping it in control ASPD and depression are the two that come to mind most when I think of these things.
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
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Wojtek says hi.
Who's Wojtek?
A motherfucking giant brown bear befriended by the Polish who fought in WWII and undoubtedly had a rather demoralizing effect on the Germans.
Decemberist
IIRC, the most common factor in psychological disorders is either abuse or having a troubled background but its been years since I did anything remotely to do with psychopathology.
edited 30th Sep '11 11:59:52 AM by whaleofyournightmare
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...that is unbelievably badass, Pykrete.
^That's what I recall as well. Abuse, lack of nurturing love, and a troubled past do absolute fucking hell to people's minds...
edited 30th Sep '11 12:00:30 PM by Aondeug
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
Decemberist
@Aon, it makes sense though because Human beings by our very nature are social animals.
Dutch Lesbian
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It makes quite a bit of sense, yeah. Also I have been reminded of what happened to those monkeys in the "DO SOFT THINGS MATTER IN DEVELOPMENT?!" experiment of doom. The one without the soft towel on its surrogate mom thing ended up incredibly disturbed. He was paranoid and didn't react well at all to other monkeys. The one with the soft, plush mom thing reacted better.
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
Decemberist
Oh yeah, I remember that. I included in an essay on early childhood development
Then there was the whole poor Genie who had no love and was extremely developmentally stunted.
edited 30th Sep '11 12:06:55 PM by whaleofyournightmare
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As did I. Was a practice essay for a test.
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
There is some precedent, but that's like when a woman manages to overcome gender barriers and gets a job as a construction worker and then the feminists claim that women can do construction work better than men.
In other words, it's a wild card. Not every woman would manage to work as well as the aforementioned example because they lack her build and drive. Likewise, the chances of the power of love succeding on preving a cathastrophe are slim, yet it is so blown out of proportion that one is led to believe that it really does work always.
Emotional reponses are not as predictable in real life as they are in movies. Therefore, if you're ever forced to resort to a "power" to assist or protect you, I suggest something literally more substantial.
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It all depends on how you use it. Every case is different, but by and large love in some shape or form ends up helping. You just have to learn how to utilize it and other things to solve the problem. Just because it doesn't work the same way by itself in all situations doesn't mean it's useless. Really it's quite naive to think so.
Though with all the evidence that psychology has provided that a lack of love during development and throughout life fucks people up, sometimes leading to disorders that can be especially troublesome like ASPD, you really have little to stand on. Love is incredibly fucking useful. By itself it can't fix everything, but it's use cannot be understated.
If you need it to develop as a sane and happy individual then there is something going for it.
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
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How do you know there were any?
Late response, I know, but the answer is I don't - I'm just saying that the suggestion that the power of love or friendship need to prevent something like an act of terrorism in order to be considered effective is flawed because there's no way of proving that they haven't done that already.
"Terrorists consider bombing attack but ultimately decide against it" doesn't make for much of a headline.
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Nor does "6,000,000,000 socially well-adjusted people decide not to bomb something."
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"Sociopath rapes puppy and kicks little girl" does though!
If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
Thinking of this makes me think of all the tribulations, betrayals and doubts Zuko had to commit and go through in Avatar: The Last Airbender before finally joining Aang (the only person who treated him kindly) and his gang. I think the power of friendship/love does work, but not without it's costs. I may be cynical by nature, but my denial makes me refuse that there's absolutely nothing in the world that can change a person for the better.
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Unwarranted kindness really can go a long way toward encouraging people to earn it.
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Love is powerfull, but it is meaningless in the face of suffering. Suffering is the real power in the world; it is through suffering that ecosystems exist and that society works.
Love itself only fuels suffering, and that is the biggest proof that it is a lesser power that should be submissive.
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Actually, you'll find in the majority of repeat suicide attempts are caused because that person didn't get the proper familial support after the first one.
The emotions of others can seem like such well guarded mysteries, people 8egin to 8elieve that's how their own emotions should 8e treated.