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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#176: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:01:14 AM

The moment I heard Snyder won I knew shit like this was going to happen.

I had my "I Told You So"s prime and ready for moments like these.

MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#177: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:05:08 AM

Still, it could be worse. Could you imagine if somehow Kwame became governor?

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#178: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:25:35 AM

Thats "Lets nuke Michigan to be safe" level.

Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
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#179: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:31:31 AM

The niceness of a few strangers at a church doesn't pay for a home.

It does when they build and run homeless shelters. The one we built back home has been up for about three years now and still hasn't hit capacity because nobody bothers going to it in lieu of just panhandling by the freeway exit.

Still, there's basically no way churches would be equipped to handle, you know, a huge chunk of Detroit.

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#180: Sep 20th 2011 at 1:16:33 AM

Going from a shitty house to a homeless shelter is still what I'd call a "significant downgrade"

JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#181: Sep 20th 2011 at 1:21:20 AM

Why is this still happening? Don't bankers and stock brokers and so on now have the exact same amount of money they did before? Why aren't THEY the ones making jobs and expanding, other than to try and squeeze more money out of government whilst pretending to care?

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#182: Sep 20th 2011 at 1:24:55 AM

Why aren't THEY the ones making jobs and expanding, other than to try and squeeze more money out of government whilst pretending to care?

I think you answered that yourself.

Alternatively. Michigan is toxic. Its so bad no one wants to touch it, which just makes it worse.

The attraction to the movie industry really could have brought Michigan back on its feet.

But noooooooooooooo Snyder, lets remove THE ONE TAX BREAK THAT WAS SHOWING RESULTS.

MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#183: Sep 20th 2011 at 1:26:28 AM

God I can't wait until our next governor election so we can boot this cocksucker out of office.

Granholm may not have been the best, and Canadian(tongue) but at least she was better than this jackoff, Snyder.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#184: Sep 20th 2011 at 8:27:31 AM

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Becaiuse they make more money this way.

breadloaf Since: Oct, 2010
#185: Sep 20th 2011 at 8:46:12 AM

You had a Canadian running? :P

Ratix from Someplace, Maryland Since: Sep, 2010
#186: Sep 20th 2011 at 9:43:43 AM

Does Michigan have any rent assistance programs? Especially if welfare isn't coming in, keeping your house will be the difference between success and failure at this point.

Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
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#187: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:22:53 PM

Going from a shitty house to a homeless shelter is still what I'd call a "significant downgrade"

It's also a very significant upgrade from sleeping under an overpass in the mildew of the last guy's urine and risking getting shanked by the first meth-head to wander past whilst tripped off his balls. I mean I get that there's some pride involved with avoiding homeless shelters, but by the time you're already homeless it doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense.

edited 20th Sep '11 12:27:35 PM by Pykrete

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#188: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:29:52 PM

My point is no one should even be in such a situation.

edited 20th Sep '11 12:30:06 PM by Thorn14

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#189: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:35:51 PM

Actually, going from a shitty house to a shelter basically takes you out of society. It's extremely hard to claw your way back in once you're at that point.

That's actually the charity work that I've spent the most time on, but we couldn't get any funding/grants whatever, because quite frankly there was little to no interest in helping homeless people perpetrate "fraud". We wanted to provide "fake" addresses/phone contact numbers/etc. for homeless people (or transient), in order to help them find gainful employment.

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#190: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:38:08 PM

Right. Who the hell hires homeless people?

Even the shitty jobs just get taken by illegal immigrants who work for much much cheaper.

edited 20th Sep '11 12:38:29 PM by Thorn14

Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
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#191: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:38:49 PM

Nobody's going to argue that. I was responding to someone saying charity can't do something that in many places it demonstrably is.

Still, retroactively chucking people out on the street en masse in a state notorious for not actually having jobs generates a task of a scale that...not a hell of a lot of people are up to handling.

Actually, going from a shitty house to a shelter basically takes you out of society. It's extremely hard to claw your way back in once you're at that point.

It's a good deal easier when said shelter gives you a valid return address and a place to clean up.

edited 20th Sep '11 12:47:16 PM by Pykrete

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#192: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:40:05 PM

Well that would require our wonderful Governor and Senate to give a flying fuck, wouldn't it?

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#194: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:44:30 PM

@Thorn: Ah, I see. It's bad for churches to give charity to the homeless, because homeless people shouldn't exist.

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#195: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:45:11 PM

Gee Rott, that's not a complete distortion of Thorn's position at all.

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#196: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:45:12 PM

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No. They shouldn't. They deserves homes.

Don't you dare twist my words to make it sound like I think homeless people should die. THEY SHOULDNT BE HOMELESS.

edited 20th Sep '11 12:45:20 PM by Thorn14

vanthebaron Mystical Monkey Master from Carlyle, Il Since: Sep, 2010
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Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#198: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:46:10 PM

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Its cute you actually think churches can solve all the homeless problems.

They arent nearly that rich.

edited 20th Sep '11 12:46:19 PM by Midgetsnowman

MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#199: Sep 20th 2011 at 6:30:07 PM

Breadloaf: our former governer, Jennifer Granholm, was from Canada I believe.

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#200: Sep 20th 2011 at 6:34:12 PM

She was born in Canada, yes.


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