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greedyspectator Since: Sep, 2011
#1: Sep 13th 2011 at 3:06:32 AM

Why I made this thread? Simple, I'm trying to conduct a statistical study on terrorism. Please help me in doing so by giving me information on the amount of terrorist attacks since 1980 and the motivation. So far, I only have one statistic: 17 000 Terrorist attacks-Perpetrated in the name of Islam (again, some would argue not the true Islam, but I don't really care since this is a statistical study). Source: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ ,which I consider very accurate because they literally keep track of the dates, places and everything that must be validated (although unfortunately, only terrorist attacks after 9/11. I'll fix that later).

Just some basic rules: 1. Give the number, motivation and source. Try to have sources that cite every terrorist attack with time, place and causalities. Again, some strict standards, but I'd like to have accurate sources. 2. Do not accuse me of being a bigot, Islamophobe, Religion hater, Atheism hater or any sort of Chewbacca Defense sort of tactics. 3. Do not apply Chewbacca Defense on any other poster. Let's be completely objective here. 4. You may draw your own conclusions and deduce from the available information. But avoid logical fallacies. 5. Do not make up sources or post false information. It's annoying.

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#2: Sep 13th 2011 at 3:19:42 AM

First define "Terrorist Attacks".

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Blurring One just might from one hill away to the regular Bigfoot jungle. Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#3: Sep 13th 2011 at 3:23:09 AM

You get source from a hate site.

This is an analysis of the FBI report on terrorism. It links to the real FBI report.

Maybe you should read this too.

edited 13th Sep '11 3:34:45 AM by Blurring

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whaleofyournightmare Decemberist from contemplation Since: Jul, 2011
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#4: Sep 13th 2011 at 3:23:14 AM

List of Terrorist Attacks in Great Britain (Not the UK).

Interesting, most were done by the IRA

Edit: Most Terrorism in Europe is Seperatist based and not religious based.

edited 13th Sep '11 3:28:13 AM by whaleofyournightmare

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#5: Sep 13th 2011 at 3:33:11 AM

17 000 Terrorist attacks-Perpetrated in the name of Islam (again, some would argue not the true Islam, but I don't really care since this is a statistical study). Source: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ , which I consider very accurate because they literally keep track of the dates, places and everything that must be validated (although unfortunately, only terrorist attacks after 9/11.

There are 3652.4 days in ten years. 17,000 terrorist attacks in the name of Islam in the 10 years since 9/11/01 is 4.65 a day, or about 100 every 22 days (three calendar weeks). I really want to know how this organization defines "terrorist attacks perpetrated in the name of Islam"...

Ah, but it gets better. The actual count on that page is 17,779, which comes out to 4.86 a day, since it's two days past 9/11/11. That means it's not 100 every three weeks, it's 100 every 20-and-a-fraction days.

And they pointedly weasel around actually defining what makes something count as a "terrorist attack".

edited 13th Sep '11 3:38:44 AM by Madrugada

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greedyspectator Since: Sep, 2011
#6: Sep 13th 2011 at 3:41:56 AM

If you scroll down the site you'll find every attack and their reasons and date and place listed. Also, where are the Christian terrorism statistics? This isn't about Islam guys!

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#7: Sep 13th 2011 at 3:50:35 AM

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to read a list of 17, nearly 18,000 items trying to figure out what they're using as criteria.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
greedyspectator Since: Sep, 2011
#8: Sep 13th 2011 at 3:51:42 AM

New Rule: Since there is no universally agreed, legally binding definition for Terrorism (Unfortunately), we'll just define terrorism as any act of violence done for a political agenda. This excludes burglary and includes any religiously motivated act of terror.

The religion of peace site counts each and every attack they listed, plus a lot of other details. Anyone care to take a closer look at the data and see whether or not it's valid?

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#9: Sep 13th 2011 at 3:53:09 AM

And they also need to show that it is really the religion that compels them to do the act and not other socio-economic reasons.

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whaleofyournightmare Decemberist from contemplation Since: Jul, 2011
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#10: Sep 13th 2011 at 3:53:52 AM

[up][up] Why dont you look up ETA/IRA/FLNC stats?

edited 13th Sep '11 3:54:07 AM by whaleofyournightmare

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greedyspectator Since: Sep, 2011
#11: Sep 13th 2011 at 3:54:59 AM

[up]Come on! Just help me here! I'm trying to cheat my way of my school research!

Christian Terrorism? Communist Terrorism? Anyone?

Blurring One just might from one hill away to the regular Bigfoot jungle. Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#12: Sep 13th 2011 at 3:57:07 AM

Why don't you read the FBI report I give on post @3?

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JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#13: Sep 13th 2011 at 3:57:39 AM

But what about assassination? Thats politically motivated? And Communist terrorism was a very real thing once upon a time.

greedyspectator Since: Sep, 2011
#14: Sep 13th 2011 at 3:57:43 AM

By the way, just found out most Islamic terrorist attacks occur outside of western soil. And that apparently leftist terrorism accounts for second place in my terror-list.

greedyspectator Since: Sep, 2011
#15: Sep 13th 2011 at 4:01:25 AM

Should we lump together Leftist with Communist? They're similar, right?

whaleofyournightmare Decemberist from contemplation Since: Jul, 2011
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#16: Sep 13th 2011 at 4:03:04 AM

No

But then Idontgetthepointofthisthreadifyouregoingtoignorewhatwewrite.jpeg

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JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#17: Sep 13th 2011 at 4:07:39 AM

What are you trying to do, exactly?

greedyspectator Since: Sep, 2011
#18: Sep 13th 2011 at 4:09:47 AM

Looked at the given sources, compared them to the religion of peace site, no contradiction is detected since most attacks occur outside US or European Soil.

Then I realized most of these attacks occur on Crapsack Countries with wars and tribal killings running rampant. I screened the 17000 attacks with new factors and only 2000 attacks are committed outside of crapsack regimes. Minus attacks because of Socioeconomic reasons brings the number down to about 1500. Rough estimate, still doing the math, since I only skimmed through the data.

Sorry guys.

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#19: Sep 13th 2011 at 4:09:57 AM

I will not quote a strongly biased site like thereligionofpeace for a report. Where do they even sourced the data.

edited 13th Sep '11 4:11:10 AM by Blurring

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greedyspectator Since: Sep, 2011
#20: Sep 13th 2011 at 4:12:17 AM

I'm trying to run a side by side comparison: Terror attacks with a Christian motivation vs Islamic motivation vs Leftist motivation vs anything else I can find. I'm trying to see which ideology gives the most incentive to commit acts of terror.

JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#21: Sep 13th 2011 at 4:12:53 AM

Even that might be considered inflated.

Look for instance to see if "attacks on white people" are actually gang violence with a racial element, as opposed to terrorism.

greedyspectator Since: Sep, 2011
#22: Sep 13th 2011 at 4:17:20 AM

Scrapped the religion of peace. I can't find enough reliable sources on any of their claims except for one or two websites. Anyone can give me an actual number then?

Back to square one. I hate you guys.

JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#23: Sep 13th 2011 at 4:18:48 AM

tongue, its what we are here for. Try wikipedia as a place to start out.

greedyspectator Since: Sep, 2011
#24: Sep 13th 2011 at 4:23:51 AM

I think I should scrap this project and conclude: Most terrorist attacks happen because people are idiots who try to find a meaning to their worthless life and end up being hooked on some wonderful promise of utopia. The whisperers of this Utopia are either equally delusional themselves or greedy bastards trying to take advantage of terrorism. I really want to avoid a war because of my post.

whaleofyournightmare Decemberist from contemplation Since: Jul, 2011
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#25: Sep 13th 2011 at 4:25:37 AM

[up] I disagree with that conclusion, but then I am biased by terrorism in the EU.

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