EDIT: Never mind, sorry. Don't want to get involved in this discussion.
edited 8th Sep '11 3:34:09 PM by YoungMachete
"Delenda est." "Furthermore, Carthage must be destroyed." -Common Roman saying at the end of speeches.
Swirl Swirl Red Whirl
1. Good point. I acknowledge defeat here.
2. When did I say that? Just because I question the validity of some statistical studies don't mean they're all unreliable and that they're so on this particular subject. All I'm saying is that you always have to know who pays for the study as a rule. Is it so outrageous?
And you're not rude. But statistics cannot really give reliable info about a group of persons' mindset and overall attitude towards society. Now, European statistics are somewhat different, especially in France where natality has never been that high ever since the 70's. And it's a documented fact, check the aforementioned links.
OG Troper
Well, if they're proud mothers, at least they care.
Only figures on France I could find was 9 out of 1,000 births to be teen mothers, compared to 49 out of 1,000 in the US, in 2002. If there has been some change, i don't think it's still that drastic.
Also, few highly publicized cases does not a social trend make. And I would be wary of using youtube comments as data.
the statement above is false
Swirl Swirl Red Whirl
Well that's my concern. Do they care more about the baby and what it will become or do they care more about their image and social status, as would many of they videos suggest?
I'm not saying it's an authority. But it remains unfiltered opinions and attitudes. Youtube comments do not have scientific value per se, but they do have value in how people see themselves and the world around them.
Your figures are too ancient. Much has changed ever since. Please look back one page backwards and check the link with more recent numbers (sorry no English).
edited 8th Sep '11 5:29:28 PM by Alrune
I know that it's decreasing in the US which is a good thing. Now can you really trust statistics? I'm not saying figures always lie but that, many times, statistics heavily depend on who pays the study...