Hitler and Christianity

dragon@I think Hitler saw Christianity as useful for furthing his purposes but I think at one point would of done away with it once its usefulness was done.I think he liked Christianity because he could manipulate the Germans who were followers.

Ciatation:Like I said he viewed also Christianity as another evil inventions by the Jews.

edited 2nd Sep '11 7:25:44 PM by jazzflower14

Err... citation needed?

Sorry,if I looked like I was offending someone but Hitler was Hitler.

You know I also think his parents' faiths had something to do with his views about Christianity and relgion in general.I remember his mother was a devoted Catholic and his father was a free believer or something.I heard that a parents' faith can rub off on their offspring either turning away from it or to it.

I wasn't at all offended, I was just hoping you had a citation to back that up because I had never read that before.

I remember reading it from a book but I forgot the title but I do remember that Hitler was very close to his mother.I was wondering if her death caused him to hate her faith or was it something else.

The reason Hitler was Christian was because pretty much all Germans were Christians. Being a Christian was not a religion, it was part of everyday life in Germany at the time. Therefore, if Hitler wanted to take over Germany, and by extension, the rest of the world, he would need to use the pretty much only religion in Germany to do so.

As far as the stuff he did, and how it lines up to other stuff: Hitler was insanely evil, and insane. Nuff said.

(Just finished reading the biography of Dietrich Bonhoffer; would recommend it to anyone with an interest in Christianity or World war 2.)

I think he wasn't a Christian(Catholic) but however he just used to the right words in order to get people to his side.He would need to manipulate the Christian faith to some point then throw it away to set Nazism as the way of life.He had a god complex if you remember that really shoves someone out for being a Christian so I believe it was manipulative lip service to get the appeal of the masses.

The only thing Hitler believed in was Hitler.

Once again, nuff said.

(If you think I was actually insinuating that Hitler was a follower of Jesus, I wasn't)

Man@Sorry,man

Yeah,Nazism is just god complex in its most evil form and it shows.Its sad that many German Christians fell for this guy and didn't stand up for the Jews but I am glad the ones who did stand up didn't take any of the bull he was preaching.

Is it just me or do joyflower and jazzflower have extremely similar posting styles?

What I don't understand is how people can ignore that bad things are done in the name of religion.

Yes, Hitler was a Christian. Yes, he used Christianity to his advantage. Yes, people are still using religion to justify their dickery. It's not like religion has some sort of immunity against assholes.

edited 2nd Sep '11 9:35:03 PM by DrunkGirlfriend

What I am saying he wasn't like the people in the Spanish Inquisition were who were actual Christians.His mission was for Nazism and just saw Christianity as a tool to be used.All I can say he wasn't a Christian and its not to deny that there haven't been things done in Christianiy's name but that he was a non-Christian using Christianity to gain supporters then do everything in his power to undermine it in order to spread Nazism.

What is the basic point if you read more into his life he was a liar who presented himself like a Christian but the truth is he had a god complex which was the foundation of Nazism.Believe me he was no Christian and I not pulling no true scotmen thing because I have read enough about him to conclude this guy had a god complex.

edited 2nd Sep '11 9:47:17 PM by jazzflower14

So, calling yourself a Christian doesn't mean anything? Because if you've got to meet some sort of criteria, then nobody's a Christian, because nobody can agree on what a "True Christian" is.

The point I am making that Hitler was a clear liar who like Jim Jones showed his true colors by later showing his true feeling about Christianity.Yes that Jim Jones,in my opinion I think he had the same complex as Hitler but without the racism and genocide.I honestly think that Hitler thought himself as a god and the German people were his worshippers.

Pretty sure the history books say that he was Christian.

Some history books tend to be wrong and don't do the research.I am not saying Hitler was an athiest but he was a guy who developed a god complex and really shown through his life to have hostilities toward Christianity.Remember what sometimes Hitler said in private was the opposite in public.Nazism is a god comlex taken up to its most evil logical level.

edited 2nd Sep '11 9:55:37 PM by jazzflower14

And you have unearthed evidence showing that the history books have it wrong? Do share.

Which history books did you find that Hitler was a Christian because there has been a lot in his private writing that show he showed Nazism as overpowering Christianity.

In most of his public speaking, he reaffirmed his faith, and spoke quite a bit about how Jesus was Aryan.

I have a very meagre knowledge of history, but didn't Hitler kind of dislike religion that wasn't controlled by him? I can see why he wouldn't like something like Catholicism. It's a very large organisation with a hold over the hearts and minds of its people, and he couldn't control it.

People come up with new sects of Christianity all the time. I don't see why his version is any less valid than say, the Church of England. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean that it's suddenly different.

edited 2nd Sep '11 10:03:06 PM by DrunkGirlfriend

That was political manipulation what more don't you get.He was a great manipulater he knew how to appeal to people as a great person.Just because someone says something in public doesn't mean its true in private.He was a bitch in sheep's clothing about his true feelings about Christianity.

And? That would mean that the Church of England is no longer a valid form of Christianity, because King Henry VIII founded it just so he could get a divorce.

The Nazis were getting rid the other religions first before they took on christianity. The Nazis wanted to get rid of christianity but they knew they could never get the support. They were still in the process of indoctrinating their new religion of blood (master race). The public would have been weened off christianity after the other religions had been removed. The Nazis invented their own religion to justify everything they did. They took parts from pre-christian german religions and added their own ideas to it.

Christians were a means to an end. They were just exploiting the catholic church just like they exploited Mussolini. Once the people believed in Nazism they would be more willing to have christianity removed from society.

They only disliked christianity and communism because they had jewish origins. Racial theory WAS their religion

People don’t but people do bad stuff outside of religion too. Yet somehow I’ve yet to hear /see anyone get mad at communist for all the millions killed, angry at democrats for supporting slavery or segregation, or even mad at a scientist for things like scientific racism.

People bend whatever they can to maintain power, doesn't automatically mean whatever was bent to support something it shouldn't is somehow flawed beyond the fact that humans have figured out how to twist it to their personal advantage.

edited 2nd Sep '11 10:11:47 PM by Justice4243