The armored raven
What..... what is this the police doesn't even....
Retards. The child fell down the stairs! Couldn't you tell from the concussions / contusions were caused by the flight of steps? Look police. Girl, gravity, stairs, body, death.
Again, what is this the police doesn't even....
What profit is it to a man, when he gains his money, but loses his internet? Anonymous 16:26 I believe...
Face Time
Oh, by the way, link is NSFW.
"Hipsters: the most dangerous gang in the US." - Pacific Mackerel
Always Right
From the description, it's pretty damn obvious that it died from falling down the stairs...
"Every opinion that isn't mine is subjected to Your Mileage May Vary."
Gamer-turning-maker
Keep in mind that nothing's been conclusively proven. They're just assuming the worst-case scenario until evidence can prove otherwise.
Long live Cinematech. FC:0259-0435-4987
Which, considering it's Japan, a.k.a., the place where the Ace Attorney series' "guilty until proven innocent beyond reasonable doubt" court system is based on, pretty much means she's doomed even if the kid really did just fall down the stairs.
edited 20th Aug '11 1:33:16 AM by Servbot
HIGH IMPACT SEXUAL VIOLENCE
Huh...
I don't know what to think.
ALL CREATURE WILL DIE AND ALL THE THINGS WILL BE BROKEN. THAT'S THE LAW OF SAMURAI.
Chaotic Greedy
The thread title is misleading: According to the article, she's accused of manslaughter, not murder.
Then, if it turns out the girl actually fell down the stairs without "help", this may still warrant an investigation for criminal negligence.
"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Not Actually Indie
Far be it from me to believe that police are always honest, but if the child really was beaten rather than falling down the stairs, it should be possible to tell them apart with a high degree of confidence in autopsy. If there was enough evidence to convince investigators in the first place that this was the result of abuse rather than an accident, then pending further evidence, that's significant reason to suspect that's the case.
Japan has a high rate of conviction, but this is in large part because unlike America, they tend to err on the side of not indicting people in the first place unless the case is very strong.
...eventually, we will reach a maximum entropy state where nobody has their own socks or underwear, or knows who to ask to get them back.
Isn't that because the Japanese police is infamous for forcing confessions out of the people they suspect, usually through extended questioning and isolation that could last for months so even the innocent would crack?
It's worth noting that the conviction rate in Japan is 99.97%. Yeah, Ace Attorney seems a lot less silly when you play it with that in mind.
Also, as for this:
edited 20th Aug '11 8:05:15 AM by INUH
Infinite Tree: an experimental story
Not Actually Indie
Not as far as I know. If you can find a source for that I'd be interested to see it.
...eventually, we will reach a maximum entropy state where nobody has their own socks or underwear, or knows who to ask to get them back.
Touch The Sky
I thought Japanese police were famous for always trying to catch nonJapanese in trouble?
Personally I'm hoping this doesn't turn out like the lady in the U>S, you know the one in Florida recently who got off free and pissed everyone off?
edited 20th Aug '11 8:40:21 AM by Vertigo_High
^^ Mostly got it from Wikipedia
. Granted, it's Wikipedia, but that section seems well-sourced.
edited 20th Aug '11 8:38:46 AM by Servbot
Not Actually Indie
From the article
and
Article 38 of Japan's Constitution categorically requires that "no person shall be convicted or punished in cases where the only proof against suspect is his/her own confession," In practice, this constitutional requirement take a form of safeguard known as "revelation of secret". Because suspects are put through continuous interrogation which could last over a month as well as isolation from the outside world, including access to lawyer, the Japanese judiciary as well as the public is well aware that confession of guilt can easily be forced. Hence the court (and the public) take the view that mere confession of guilt alone is never any sufficient ground for conviction.
Instead, for confession to be a valid evidence for conviction, the Japanese court requires confession to include revelation of verifiable factual matter which only the perpetrator of the crime could have known such as the location of an undiscovered body or murder weapon, a fact about the crime scene, etc. and something the police, until the point of confession, did not know. In fact, in the Sachiura murder case, the conviction was initially secured by the confession of the location of the body which was yet to be discovered. However, it later transpired that the police likely knew the location of the body and this created enough doubt that the confession of the location of the body was forged by the police, resulting in the reversal of verdict at the higher court.
So abuse to extract a confession is definitely a concern, but that's true in America also, and although it's possible they're not applied stringently enough, Japan does have safeguards to prevent convictions purely on the basis of an extracted confession.
...eventually, we will reach a maximum entropy state where nobody has their own socks or underwear, or knows who to ask to get them back.
I'm starting to see why the authorities refused to give out any clear information on her identity at first. Just that post alone on Sankaku and there's already accusations of the police being overzealous, and I doubt it's just because of the circumstances behind the murder. Because unless that woman has a solid justification as to why there's blood in the toddler's room, then her side of the story isn't looking good at all.
I wonder what the reaction is like in Japan?
EDIT: Come to think of it a baby is a LOT lighter than an adult, and can in some cases take a fall a lot better than an adult can. Granted this is a whole flight of steps we're talking about here, but it does seem to imply that some extra force must've been applied to cause bleeding.
edited 20th Aug '11 9:36:39 AM by SgtRicko
Wow...
(NSFW) http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2011/08/20/seiyuu-arrested-for-killing-3-year-old-girl/
I could not believe this. Even if this is San Com, after all.
edited 20th Aug '11 8:02:21 AM by FastEddie