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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#26: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:37:58 PM

Bumping. I'm still not seeing a tropable distinction here—both these tropes are about a fat person with unexpected mobility.

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#27: Sep 20th 2011 at 12:46:41 PM

Agility and speed are not the same thing. That's the difference.

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#28: Sep 20th 2011 at 1:24:09 PM

They are distinct, but frequently linked. I suspect that a majority of examples will fit both. But not all. Which is why I'm thoroughly neutral on this.

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#29: Sep 20th 2011 at 1:27:07 PM

Agility and speed are related; I think the tropes should be merged simply because the number involving speed without agility amongst the heavy-set are Too Rare To Trope - it seems that the categories involved are "fat yet agile" and "fat yet agile and fast."

That said, this crowner is a few weeks old. Unless we get sudden movement, we should probably take action on the one that hit the 2:1 ratio.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#30: Sep 20th 2011 at 1:38:23 PM

Agility and speed are not the same thing, but they're so closely related that it's not important for us to have separate tropes for them. I wouldn't want to split off "Fat person who can jump really high", even though that's not the same as agility.

"Fat person as a fragile speedster" (the crowner option that had the 2:1 ratio) seems even more Too Rare To Trope. I'm having difficulty thinking of any examples for that one.

edited 20th Sep '11 1:38:39 PM by troacctid

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#31: Sep 21st 2011 at 6:08:08 PM

Current standings: +7 (yeas:13 nays:6) 2.17 : 1 for a merge.

Cleanup is at 7 to 7.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#32: Sep 24th 2011 at 3:34:52 PM

Now at +11 vs. -2. I'll move to call that a consensus for merging.

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#33: Sep 24th 2011 at 4:05:44 PM

And still rising (currently +13). We'll let it go over the weekend and probably call it on Monday.

edited 24th Sep '11 4:06:03 PM by Madrugada

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#34: Oct 3rd 2011 at 6:41:37 PM

Okay, seems clear enough. Merge done. Got the wicks. No subpages that I noticed. Anything I missed?

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