Court Strikes down mandatory healthcare

But I've also put up statistics which cite that single-payer systems are delivering a higher quality of care than the US! It has nothing to do with spending, thats just quality!

High spending doesn't equal low care quality-duh-but it also doesn't equal high quality care. And there is no evidence to suggest that Americans receive substantially higher enough quality of care so as to justify anything coming even remotely close to the increased spending. There is, however, a lot of money going to people in the private sector that is coming out of the money we're spending on health care.

I never said it was. That's just the implication everyone posting that number makes.

And any going to the government gets ciphoned into the black hole of bureaucracy. Removing "profit" and competition won't fix anything.

edited 13th Aug '11 4:34:57 PM by deuxhero

The implication is that America is getting the same quality of care for about twice the expense.

Citation Needed. Realize, private companies ALSO have bureaucracy.

I think I understand. You don't actually understand what bureaucracy means, do you?

edited 13th Aug '11 4:35:22 PM by TheyCallMeTomu

Less, in fact. You're underperforming.

I can't find any numbers that link to cost vs care quality.

But they have incentive to fix any.

edited 13th Aug '11 4:35:48 PM by deuxhero

^^^^^^ Five words defeat the notion of government run health care as superior to private:

Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Remember that? If our veterans can't get good care by the hands of the government, what chance does the average citizen have?

edited 13th Aug '11 4:35:55 PM by MajorTom

[[What are you dense? Are you...

High Spending!=low care quality. ]]

What does that even mean? There is a chance now to cut the Federal budget with a fucking benefit and you are blind to it because it would mean government inference? Oh the fucking Noes.

Oops, I did make rather a bad typo there. Anyway, I've decided that this thread is now irreparably derailed, since it has ceased being about anything other than the 100th rehashing of this debate between Major Tom and deuxhero on one side (surprised Savage Heathen isn't here) and everyone else on the other. Locking.