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LordGriffin Since: Sep, 2010
#51: Sep 13th 2011 at 2:54:29 AM

I've had quite a few discussions about the definitions among "Nerd", "Dork" and "Geek". I don't want to go into all of that right now, but I added Social Dork just in case people wanted to head in that direction with this.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#52: Sep 13th 2011 at 4:57:37 AM

[up][up][up] Well, seeing as people don't use The Urkel off the page for anyone other than the trope namer, there might not actually be a trope here. If we can't describe it as a common thread that ties the examples together, then it might just need to be cut.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#53: Sep 13th 2011 at 11:22:59 AM

[up][up][up]My dictionary merely says "extravert" is a variant spelling of "extrovert". I don't think we care which spelling psychologists may or may not prefer (which may vary by country or region). We want the spelling that isn't a variant — the common spelling — so people don't have to check their dictionaries to figure out that it's not misspelt. We also want people to be able to find it in the first place, which is far less likely with "extravert".

[up]I already fixed up a bunch of on-page examples that were X Just X to show how they match the description, and also tweaked the description (in reference to in-media depictions, changing "most", which is untrue, to "many") in the hopes it will cut down on the overbroad shoehorning. The name is probably the biggest reason it's not used in wicks; the trope itself seems straightforward and fairly common, at least to me.

edit: p.s. current standings: +9 (yeas:12 nays:3) 4.00 : 1 for Extroverted Nerd, +1 (yeas:3 nays:2) 1.50 : 1 for Nerdy Extrovert, everything else red.

edited 13th Sep '11 12:18:37 PM by Xtifr

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#54: Sep 13th 2011 at 1:46:10 PM

My psychology texts books all say extrovert for the record.

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#56: Sep 14th 2011 at 8:40:50 PM

Extroverted Nerd seems to have a clear lead. Shall I go ahead and do the switch? It has been up a couple of days.

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#57: Sep 16th 2011 at 12:38:48 PM

^ How did I not see that post? Anyway, now that it's been even longer, we should call it.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#58: Sep 16th 2011 at 12:43:39 PM

Crowner called and locked. Go ahead and make the switch. If not, I'll get to it in a bit.

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AlternativeTitles: TheUrkel
12th Sep '11 3:29:37 PM

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Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.

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