Statutory rape laws

Arguing with some of the OT Cers makes me angry.

If they were seduced while in full control of themselves, then agreed.

If they weren't(which means they could get jail time for that other reason), then I completely disagree. They must have done through their own free will and free of any mind-inducing substances.

Remember, having sex with a drunk person means the one who was not drunk can be the rapist in many cases. Regardless of age, because the other person did not have good judgment.

Yeah, but letting that anger get too much control over your posts is a bad thing. I learned that a while ago.

It's more than kind of hard to not get angry at some people here.

My stance is that if the adult and minor are close in age it shouldn't be illegal. If they aren't but both consented and are old enough to (ie. at or near the age of consent) I think the adult should get help and do a few years of jailtime but otherwise not be on the list. If the minor didn't consent/wasn't old enough to (i.e at or near the age of consent) only then should the adult be on the list.

So if an adult bangs a 15 year old, s/he gets on the register? That sounds great.

15 is near so I think if both consented then the adult should be arrested and get help but not be put on the register. If it wasn't consensual then they should be put on it, yes.

@Chariot: I think it should be the Age of Consent(in the appropriate place) if it's consensual(outside of influences, as in any form of drugging, then it's both faults regardless. Obviously, it's possible that the minor drugged the adult. Some are odd that way.) no matter what.

If the age of consent is 12, then it's not rape due to age, regardless of the adult/older one's age. It could easily be due to other reasons, though.

To be fair, I would actually prefer the universal age of consent at 17 or 18. That would solve quite a bit of issues, like consistency.

edited 1st Apr '12 3:17:57 PM by Hydronix

Explaining myself over and over while people kept misunderstanding me got really frustrating. I'm sorry for what I said, though.

edited 31st Mar '12 10:25:35 PM by ColonelMcBadass

I was thinking 16, with a gradient.

But what kind of adult would want to have sex with someone my age? That is so fucked up, I can't describe it!

edited 31st Mar '12 10:25:49 PM by lolacat

Totally agree, Irene. You just have to make me regret my first response to you more and more.

Someone who isn't mature enough for someone their own age, I suppose.

edited 31st Mar '12 10:26:15 PM by Firebert

@ Irene

Ah. Well my ideal age for when the age of consent should be and the restrictions to go with it can be found on page 6/7 if you want to look at it.

Right. Yes it is messed up but if both agreed then I think at most the adult should get jailtime and help. Only when they didn't should the adult be on the register.

edited 31st Mar '12 10:28:36 PM by Chariot

How adult? I mean, I'm 2 years older than you, and my Boyfriend is (*Barely*) an adult. But no-one thinks we're creepy, nor is it illegal (*Though it would be in a few states*).

Oh yeah, you're 15, not 16. Fix'd.

edited 31st Mar '12 10:28:16 PM by inane242

It's fine, Firebert. I sometimes word things badly. Also, what you just said. Some adults, as I said before, are mentally challenged and possibly unstable. That means they need help even more.

@Lola: Kid drugged the adult. They thought the kid was older because of lied to. There you go. You keep making it sound like the Adult is at fault even when they aren't. It's not the case always.

@Inane: I'd say that's another topic for another time. I prefer 18 because they'd be out of school by then. That atleast means they have better judgment and and can get a better job in the case of unwanted pregnancy.

@Chariot: Right. As I said, another topic, another time. I explained my reasoning earlier.

edited 31st Mar '12 10:29:54 PM by Hydronix

@ inane: Well, that's only a couple of years, so of course no one thinks that's creepy.

Inane's relationship isn't creepy. If Inane were my age, it would be a different story.

I wasn't talking about the drugging.

edited 31st Mar '12 10:29:49 PM by lolacat

Exactly. But it'd be creepy if he was, like 25.

Either way, he'd be an adult.

edited 31st Mar '12 10:29:39 PM by inane242

But that's not the problem, the age difference is the major problem here.

I know I'll be 16 on Tuesday but I certainly don't feel old enough to drive.

Though if a grown man, like over 22, has sex with a teenager and claims it isn't creepy because she's 16, therefore legal in Canada, it's a pretty lame excuse. Just because it is legal, doesn't mean it isn't creepy.

@Lolacat: But you keep dismissing actual situations that do occur. It's only statutory rape under the condition that the Adult fully condoned to it. Key term being "fully". There's a wide difference between the two.

Creepy doesn't make them jailworthy, sorry.

edited 31st Mar '12 10:33:37 PM by Hydronix

@Irene

Alright then. While I disagree because I think at high school age the minor is old enough to know the consequences, your ideal age makes sense as well.

I'm not sure I understand most of you guys.

@Chariot: Fair enough.

Hydronix: but how often does that happen? Really rare, and rape is already illegal. I don't think anyone is intimating that being raped or coerced makes the victim a bad person, so you're arguing a strawman.