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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#20401: Oct 22nd 2014 at 7:16:12 AM

I'm sticking with Marvel, mostly because I'm invested at this point, and mostly out of a sense of self-preservation. If I even attempt to watch another series of comic book connected universe films I'll probably flame out.

Also, the Age of Ultron Trailer will be on Agents of Shield, so that's cool.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#20402: Oct 22nd 2014 at 7:20:33 AM

I didn't find DOFP that good, so I'll probably just stick with the MCU.

I did like their version of Quicksilver, though.

edited 22nd Oct '14 7:20:44 AM by Anomalocaris20

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#20403: Oct 22nd 2014 at 7:25:48 AM

It's probably not worth comparing what each studio does with their Quicksilver. Fox's version can afford to be more goofy, but the Twins' origins in this one means that he will probably be a bit more serious and well, Eastern European.

Their only commonality is that they both look kind of silly. tongue

edited 22nd Oct '14 7:25:57 AM by edvedd

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#20404: Oct 22nd 2014 at 7:29:15 AM

As long as the costume is better. DOFP Quicksilver was funny, but his design made him look less like Quicksilver and more like a trick-or-treater wearing a hastily-made Quicksilver costume.

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swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#20405: Oct 22nd 2014 at 7:35:42 AM

Ao S is currently cool on its own...which is a welcome surprise. I look also forward to Agent Carter. There hasn't been a good Comic series with a female lead since Wonder Woman in the 70th, and that one doesn't hold up particularly well nowadays.

I hope that the trailer will come with another good episode and that it might generate enough interest in the show to push the ratings a little bit. I don't think that the show is in danger of cancellation, but it is too bad that so many people gave up on it before it hit its stride.

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#20406: Oct 22nd 2014 at 8:26:26 AM

[up][up]Because he wasn't wearing a costume, just his regular street clothes.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#20407: Oct 22nd 2014 at 8:29:46 AM

Costumes don't happen so much in the Fo X-Men.

Seriously. Second-best use of "Time in a Bottle" ever.

What was the first?

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#20408: Oct 22nd 2014 at 9:03:11 AM

Apparently Myeh-Myeh is smart, and the Coat Hangar isn't as worthy as we thought.

Also, commentary on "why don't the Avengers team up in the solo movies?"

edited 22nd Oct '14 9:12:40 AM by wanderlustwarrior

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#20409: Oct 22nd 2014 at 10:10:18 AM

Now I'm imagining Odin with an overly long list of rules for Mew Mew.

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swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#20410: Oct 22nd 2014 at 10:12:27 AM

[up][up] Honestly the "why don't they team up" question never really bothered me too much, because the Avengers in the MCU are not all living in New York but are spread all over the world (and in Thor's case beyond). They barely know each other (well, I guess there is now some sort of friendship between Tony and Bruce, and Steve and Natasha and naturally Natasha and Clint). It did bother me during Iron Man that S.H.I.E.L.D. doesn't act when the president is kidnapped, or during Thor that S.W.O.R.D has apparently no defence to speak off, but generally I don't expect the Avengers to pop up just because one of them has a problem or is on a mission.

edited 22nd Oct '14 10:12:36 AM by swanpride

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#20411: Oct 22nd 2014 at 10:13:57 AM

Does S.W.O.R.D even exist in the MCU?

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#20412: Oct 22nd 2014 at 10:16:05 AM

S.W.O.R.D was created and first showed up in X-Men. Probably not.

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#20413: Oct 22nd 2014 at 10:26:18 AM

Yeah I think FOX has the rights.

They are probably going to be used as a SHIELD stand in when they tie the FF and X-Men movies together.

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
GethKnight from St Charles, Missouri Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Mu
#20414: Oct 22nd 2014 at 10:27:56 AM

Aren't the Fantastic Four liked despite having powers? How does the Fantastic Four being liked, while the X-Men are hated even though they do Good, work?

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#20415: Oct 22nd 2014 at 10:30:41 AM

It's kinda why the X-men can only exist as a separate entity from the rest of the Marvel Universe, because once they're included in everything else, it becomes so fucking stupid.

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swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#20416: Oct 22nd 2014 at 10:31:06 AM

[up][up]That's exactly the reason why I prefer the X-Man as their own universe, not crossing with any of the others.

S.W.O.R.D was mentioned in a deleted scene of Thor, so unless I am told otherwise, I assume that they exist in the universe.

edited 22nd Oct '14 10:31:20 AM by swanpride

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#20417: Oct 22nd 2014 at 10:34:05 AM

Seriously. Second-best use of "Time in a Bottle" ever.
What was the first?

edited 22nd Oct '14 10:34:36 AM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#20418: Oct 22nd 2014 at 10:35:15 AM

In theory the idea could be that the Fantastic Four aren't a danger of outbreeding and driving normal humans extinct.

Still stupid though.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#20419: Oct 22nd 2014 at 10:37:13 AM

[up][up][up]Which one? Link if its on youtube.

Edit: The Avengers seems to be in conflict with the X-Men more than FF is.

edited 22nd Oct '14 10:38:53 AM by LordofLore

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#20420: Oct 22nd 2014 at 10:39:10 AM

Its all the dumb 'being replaced' stuff not helped by the 'extinction gene' stuff which was probably furiously retconned as soon as Morrison went away.

Stupid hoomans, mutants may replace you but they're coming from your loins. Your children will replace you but that is always the way.

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swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#20421: Oct 22nd 2014 at 10:39:31 AM

The Fantastic Four would fit better in the MCU either way...not that I miss them specifically, but the Silver Surfer would be a great character to let hop around between Earth, Thor and the Guardians of the Galaxy.

[up][up]Don't have a link, but the one which was supposed at the very end, when Jane sends a "message" to Thor. Before they cut to the rood Selvig mentions something about data they got from S.W.O.R.D

edited 22nd Oct '14 10:43:44 AM by swanpride

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#20422: Oct 22nd 2014 at 10:42:22 AM

Joe average is worried their children will be driven extinct. Once they have a mutant child or family member the dynamic might change slightly.

Of course that would be a rational cause for fear in real life. In the Marvel universe the average citizen is just an awful person.

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GethKnight from St Charles, Missouri Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Mu
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#20425: Oct 22nd 2014 at 1:29:35 PM

Okay, I wasn't expecting Ultron to have irises. I get the feeling he's going to have some terrifying facial expressions.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

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