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Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM
The thing is, the most power that Peltz can have is two seats on a 12 man board. There is a limit to the demands one can make from that position. Also, he has a responsibility to shareholders, he has made a financial case.
I am not trying to take anyone's side here in the dispute. I think that it isn't worth worrying about Peltz taking over Disney or assuming bad faith on his part.
Feige is small potatoes(or should I say figs ;))in all of what is Disney. The comments about Black Panther and the Marvels are what gets the most media attention, but Peltz doesn't mention that on his website.
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Feige is in a similar situation to a coach who took his team to the championship, but since then has failed to qualify for the play offs.
Edited by ry4n on Mar 27th 2024 at 9:28:30 AM
Team Rocket Boss.
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Imagine if that somehow leads to Gargan Venom being used in a future Thunderbolts movie.
If we got Scorpion Venom, everything would be forgiven from me regarding how stupid the Venom stinger was.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Some behind the scenes footage from the set of Thunderbolts courtesy of Florence Pugh.
The Man Outside Reality
This just in: Yelena Belova holds a gun in the new Thunderbolts movie!
Trust no one.
Team Rocket Boss.
No Venom, no Green Goblin, no Moonstone, and not even a Bullseye.
Hard pass from me.
Thunderbolts is something I'm skipping.
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
The Head of the Hydra
The recent episode with X-Men 97 re-confirms the idea that a movie centering on Sinister's mad experimentation with Cyclops and Jean would make for a great story for all 3 characters involved
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
*2.
It doesn't help that with the exception of Ghost, everyone has the same power.
Hit and shoot
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
I swear, if I hear someone complain one more time that the team doesn't have supervillains when they're obviously not going for "supervillains Thunderbolts", they're clearly going for "black ops Thunderbolts", I'm gonna lose it.
It's just a disingenuous argument. Criticizing it is fine, but that's not a fair criticism, they were never going to consider those characters for this version of the team.
Team Rocket Boss.
I'm half shit posting, I admit.
But I'll be honest, and say I really enjoyed the Civil War era of the Thunderbolts, really was fun seeing their dynamic.
And the MCU Thunderbolts just don't have that same spark if they aren't a supervillain team of some sort. Pretending to be heroes or being conscripted by the Government is a premise that captures me, and when you use the name Thunderbolt, it comes with certain expectations.
And the current line up consisting of Black Widow characters plus Ghost isn't motivating me either.
So I'm legit going to pass on Thunderbolts.
Yeah, that's another problem I have with the premise, the team's power set just doesn't excite me.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 28th 2024 at 9:13:46 PM
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
Yeah, in all honesty the things leakers are saying makes the movie sound like in execution it'll be more like Black Widow II than a MCU take on the Suicide Squad. I mean, Yelena sounds like the main protagonist and it sounds like her dynamics with her surrogate parents and Antonia get the most focus.
Not necessarily a bad thing since I like Yelena and Florence Pugh, but it's a disservice to others in the roster.
Edited by dmcreif on Mar 28th 2024 at 9:16:30 AM
The cold never bothered me anyway
Team Rocket Boss.
Yeah the movie would be better off with a different name than Thunderbolts.
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
Takat Empress
Dark Avengers?
Mileena Madness
Team Rocket Boss.
Black Widow 2.
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
Making a lot of assumptions based on a cast list and basically nothing else.
Like Avengers was rightly not Iron Man 3 even if Tony Stark was still the biggest focus.
Seriously. This and Cap 4 are attracted so much bad faith criticism despite hardly any official promo being out yet. Just chill for a minute.
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Also, apparently, the title will have a lone asterisk next to it.
The Man Outside Reality
The Head of the Hydra
Admitably my concern now with Thunderbolts and Cap 4 is exactly because they are spy capers.
The last really good spy movie was Winter Soldier and since then it's been a slow decline with Black Widow, Cap and Winter Soldier, and finally Secret Invasion.
I don't have that much faith they'll improve from the general mediocrity of Widow or terrible politics from Winter Falcon and Secret Invasion.
Edited by slimcoder on Mar 28th 2024 at 12:11:08 PM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
I can't defend Brave New World, but I will say that Yelena and Red Guardian were my favourite parts of Black Widow. I'm down for more of them interacting, and I'm down for more teamup/crossover stuff in general.
It's just a disingenuous argument. Criticizing it is fine, but that's not a fair criticism, they were never going to consider those characters for this version of the team.
That is itself an extremely disingenuous argument. The writers' choice to deviate from "supervillain team" to do "black ops team" instead is the point of criticism, and it is an entirely fair critique to make.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Pushover is right that slamming the movie for not being a different movie might be something a person could do for understandable reasons, but it isn’t a criticism per se.
Particularly because “black ops Thunderbolts” is a preexisting thing that does exist, it’s just less well known than the classic Thunderbolts. This isn’t a Defenders situation where they adapted a name attached to an idea that’s never had that name.
That said, given the context and everything I’ve for a while suspected this whole thing is a merger between the Thunderbolts and the Secret Warriors, conceptually.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 28th 2024 at 2:30:33 AM
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Plus the point of the team movie is to use existing characters. There are barely any surviving supervillians in the MCU to use. (And one of those, Ghost, is on the team).
Out of the four that RedHunter mentioned one exists already in the MCU and that's Bullseye from Netflix's daredevil.
There's no supervillian version of Thunderbolts to use, unless you introduce them all in that one movie.
It comes to mind that the two outstanding plot threads for the home trilogy are Mac Gargan, and the remaining bit of Venom Symbiote.
So ending on Gargan-As-Venom is a real possibility.