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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#64351: Oct 28th 2016 at 2:18:10 PM

Regardless of how they do it, they really need to pull the behind-the-scenes talent from all 4 Marvel Netflix shows to make Defenders an actual Defenders show.

I was a little worried that because it used the Season 2 Daredevil showrunners it could turn Defenders into "Daredevil and Friends" (or perhaps more realistically "Daredevil and Begrudging Acquaintances), but if the writers and directors are primarily from the other 3 shows, that might be enough to counterbalance the showrunners.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#64354: Oct 28th 2016 at 2:56:31 PM

He has excellent taste.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#64358: Oct 29th 2016 at 2:47:27 PM

Interesting. I'm wondering how much of Planet Hulk they'd realistically be able to fit into the movie.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#64360: Oct 29th 2016 at 3:05:18 PM

I'm gonna guess that one or two of the cameos is for Infinity War.

hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#64361: Oct 29th 2016 at 3:20:47 PM

[up] Would he have filmed the Thor cameo, too? In that case, he probably has that one, Got G 2, Spider-Man and Black Panther. If they go chronologically, that is.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#64362: Oct 29th 2016 at 3:59:20 PM

Black Panther and the two Infinity War movies begin filming in January so that'd be fairly easy to slip him into.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#64363: Oct 29th 2016 at 6:46:30 PM

One of the cameos Gunn shot was for Doctor Strange. So I'm guessing the four cameos are Doctor Strange, Spider-Man: Homecoming, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2, and Black Panther. Or possibly Stan already filmed his Spider-Man cameo, so that will be the Infinity War one instead (Gunn said he only filmed three and someone else filmed the fourth cameo, so that might be one of the Russo brothers).

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#64364: Oct 29th 2016 at 6:47:57 PM

Did he have any cameo in JJ? He appeared on a poster in Daredevil and Luke Cage, but I didn't see him anywhere during Jessica Jones.

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#64365: Oct 29th 2016 at 6:54:50 PM

...Huh. Well... [Google search] Looks like he's a cop again, with his photo on a plaque in these shots. Way in the background again. In fact, it looks suspiciously like the same plaque.

edited 29th Oct '16 6:56:18 PM by Unsung

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#64366: Oct 29th 2016 at 6:56:48 PM

Oh, it's just the same plaque in the precinct from DD S1 and S2? I wasn't sure if any angle in the precinct showed it in JJ.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#64367: Oct 29th 2016 at 6:59:28 PM

It looks like the same plaque, but it's not in the same place.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#64368: Oct 29th 2016 at 7:13:01 PM

Stan already filmed his Spider-Man cameo

10 bucks say Stan's cameo in Spider-Man will have him being saved by Spidey and he mutters:

"Another one? Sheesh, gimme a break..."

dantecito Since: Dec, 2014
#64369: Oct 29th 2016 at 9:19:16 PM

I wonder, what year will be set the plot of Thor Ragnarok?

Assuming that Thor Ragnarok is an Immediate Sequel to Age of Ultron, by logic should be in 2015, but I'm not sure.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#64370: Oct 29th 2016 at 9:21:07 PM

Thor's failure to locate Odin could last multiple years.

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#64371: Oct 29th 2016 at 9:36:01 PM

All this talk about Stan Lee keeps reminding me about a Tumblr post that there would eventually be one Marvel movie where he won't appear and the end credit would just be the title card "In Memory of Stan Lee"

edited 29th Oct '16 9:36:14 PM by shatterstar

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#64372: Oct 29th 2016 at 10:06:53 PM

Re: Cop Stan Lee, they also used that same shot for his cameo in episode 11 of Luke Cage.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#64373: Oct 29th 2016 at 10:37:40 PM

I guess that plaque might really be making the rounds, migrating to a whole other precinct house, but I think the Stan Lee cameo from Luke Cage everyone remembers is the poster from right before Luke busts the liquor store holdup.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#64374: Oct 29th 2016 at 10:42:42 PM

Yep, that's the one. I think it was in episode 11. Image. Not the same format, but it looks like it's edited from the same photo of Stan.

edited 29th Oct '16 10:43:16 PM by AlleyOop

MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#64375: Oct 30th 2016 at 1:00:38 AM

I was thinking about what a dick move it was for Stark to bring up Barton's family in the Raft-see, there were cameras everywhere, and presumably microphones too. It seems reasonable to assume someone was monitoring them. Which means Stark just outed Barton's innocent wife and children to a man (T. Ross) that would have no problem targeting them to get to Barton (and when you add in the fact that Stark knows about them in the first place because Barton brought the Avengers into his home -not a safehouse, his actual family home- to hide from the monster Stark himself helped create? Yeah, I think "dick move" is putting it mildly). That lead me to something that hadn't occurred to me before: the facility Bucky was being held in when Zemo got to him had cameras too. And probably mics. How long would it take for someone reviewing that footage to work out what happened there? Before someone puts it together and realizes "oh. If we can get within range and say those words in that order, we can make him do whatever we want"? I feel comfortable saying that's exactly the kind of thing Ross would do. And when someone rightly called him out for it he would probably believe it when he claimed this was somehow different from when HYDRA was using Bucky that way.

Especially since I doubt they'll have the HYDRA programming out of his head before Infinity War. Although it would be nice if the Black Panther stinger was Bucky being taken out of cryo and T'challa explaining that they (Wakanda) believed they had a way to get the programming out, and then Wanda Maximoff walks in. Probably not, though. More likely, halfway through IF someone will guilt-trip Stark (since apparently guilt is his motivator...) into using his BARF technology. That's the only reason for them to've shown that in Civil War, aside from showing what a warm, loving mother Maria Stark was so it would be that much worse when we watch the Winter Soldier strangle her to death.


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