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Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM
Yeah I'm gonna be annoyed if they whitewash the character.
This has me worried for Wong now.
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Well, perhaps they want to avoid unfortunate implications by changing the story to scottland instead of Tibet.
See that's an admirable goal but I dislike the idea of taking away what few minorities roles there are just to avoid stereotypes. It's a lateral move in terms of representation because while you're not promoting stereotypes you're doing it by erasing minorities entirely. A better idea would be to take people like the Mandarin and the Ancient One and write them in a way that isn't stereotypical.
I honestly loved how they used the Mandarin to take a critical jab at the origin of the character, which is very much a product of the "yellow scare". Especially since it would have been pretty hard to make the character non offensive. Whatever you do, you always end up with the white hero fighting the evil Asian.
To me the rumour (and that's what it is) sounds like Marvel is thinking out of the box again, which is always a good thing in my eyes. I hope though that the Inhumans will be full of Asian characters given how they are portrayed in Ao S.
Urgh.
Actually had her as Umar or Sorceress Supreme Clea on one of my old lists back when I hoped Strange would be older than Benedict.
edited 27th May '15 2:01:03 PM by LordofLore
So the white characters can't ever fight minorities? I don't really like that idea. The Mandarin could have still played up the Yellow Peril stuff while still being an otherwise normal corrupt businessman from China. Heck, given the way the Ten Rings were previously portrayed he didn't even have to be Chinese. The Mongolian Empire stretched over much of Asia and the Ten Rings seemed to be spread over much of the Middle East.
Well, they did use an actor with Indian roots
I don't really care about Tilda Swinton playing the Ancient One.
edited 27th May '15 12:34:02 PM by VeryMelon
I just want to make it clear that I don't care if the Ancient One is a woman and isn't played by a Tibetan actor. I just want someone that isn't white and can believably pass for the character. The Mandarin was already changed and the only East Asian character with any prominence in the movies is Helen Cho. Given their overall lack of diversity Marvel should be including them whenever possible.
Queen of Good Things, Honest
Well, there's Skye and May over in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Also, we're going to get the Iron Fist series on Netflix, which is about a white guy excelling at Asian—wait, no, that's part of the problem.
edited 27th May '15 12:56:52 PM by TobiasDrake
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Deranged X-Mas Figure
We don't know if he's going to be a white guy just now; not yet, anyway. Although, if he gets as an East-Asian, that might be even worse...
What if instead it's an Asian guy excelling at White-Guy Kung-Fu?
Should've had Shang-Chi as the hero of a Netflix series instead of Iron Fist...
Deranged X-Mas Figure
As I just said, that might be even worse. Think about it; you finally get an Asian in a starring role in MCU, and what's he starring in? A martial arts flick. I'm sure you can see how that might lean juuuuuuuuust a bit towards sterotyping and/or typecasting here.
edited 27th May '15 1:01:50 PM by kkhohoho
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Queen of Good Things, Honest
They're damned if they do, damned if they don't.
If he's a white guy, then he's Mighty Whitey.
If he's Asian, he's still participating in erasure of Asian characters by whitewashing a Caucasian character for a role that could be just as well served by an actual Asian character, Shang-Chi.
Asians: good enough to play white characters but not good enough to have their own, even when their own exists?
edited 27th May '15 1:03:06 PM by TobiasDrake
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Deranged X-Mas Figure
What if they just made him black or latino? Maybe that could work.
edited 27th May '15 1:03:17 PM by kkhohoho
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Rollin' rollin' rollin'
It's not like the Defenders team Feige is setting up is comic accurate anyway. Just make a Shang-Chi show.
Queen of Good Things, Honest
Seriously!
Iron Fist would be totes important if they were trying to do a Heroes for Hire series, but they gave them the Defenders name for some f*cking reason so that doesn't matter.
EDIT: Oh dear god, I just used "totes" unironically. Damn you kids, ruining my vocabulary.
edited 27th May '15 1:06:25 PM by TobiasDrake
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I still want Iron fist to be either Latino or Native American.
I keep saying they should make Iron Fist anything but White or East Asian. Make him Indian or something. There aren't a lot of them in the Marvel Universe.
Absolutely no relation to NLK
Let's turn it on its head and have an Asian character that learns from and surpasses a bunch of white characters at barbequeing, polo and dancing poorly.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Queen of Good Things, Honest
NOBODY surpasses the White Man at dancing poorly!
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Absolutely no relation to NLK
You sure? I'm Latino and I got a damn good grasp on it.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Jesus, that woman would make an AMAZING Blind Al.
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Back on point, yeah, I could see her as the Ancient One.